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From: broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com (Mark Brown)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 5/5] ARM: S5PV210: Initial CPUFREQ Support
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:37:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100716093710.GH9082@rakim.wolfsonmicro.main> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikNCOjOSVlcBv99DuJEdPtQHmKpC8Cs60rQz1r3@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 06:01:51PM +0900, MyungJoo Ham wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Mark Brown
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 05:30:03PM +0900, MyungJoo Ham wrote:

> >> It's about 30us in this driver (100MHz -> 1GHz), where we lost about
> >> 60000 instructions (2 instructions / cycle @ 100MHz, with default RAMP
> >> UP of 10mV/us). However, let's assume that it's ok for now.

> > Is the ramp actually required for systems? ?The obvious thought here is
> > that if the ramp time can be reduced or eliminated by configuring the
> > regulator it'd be better to do that.

> It appears that the ramp is actually required. Without ramp, the
> driver has no idea about the voltage change delay, which can be
> hazardous when the supplied voltage is required to increase. For

Sorry, I think you misunderstand - what I mean is that you say this is
the "default" ramp time which suggests that the ramp time can be
configured.  Hopefully one of the options available is to reduce it
which seems like a win overall since it avoids having to handle the ramp
in software and reduces the overall state change time.

> Yes, with RAMP off, the voltage goes up to 1.25V very fast (appears to
> be less than 1mV/us in our hardware), but not fast enough to prevent
> executing some (about a hundred or thousand?) instructions. Thus,
> codes after setting the clock to 1GHz are executed while the supplied
> voltage it not enough. Then, CPU may fail although the probability
> wouldn't be high enough to be seen frequently.

> RAMP feature makes this delay deterministic lets us predict the
> behavior and prevent running at higher frequency when the voltage is
> not stabilized.

Right, you will get a ramp time due to the need to charge the capacitors
on the output of the DCDC - this applies to pretty much all regulators -
but it will be very much reduced which does substantially mitigate the
effects which makes a simpler approach in software much less of a
problem.

With high performance regualtors the limit is pretty much entirely the
capacitor on the output, it should actually be predictable and suitable
for handling within the driver.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-16  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-15  9:06 [PATCH 0/5] ARM: S5PV210: CPUFREQ Initial Support MyungJoo Ham
2010-07-15  9:06 ` [PATCH 1/5] ARM: Samsung SoC: added hclk/pclk info to s3c_freq for s5pv210 cpu-freq MyungJoo Ham
2010-07-15  9:06   ` [PATCH 2/5] ARM: S5P: Added default pll values for APLL 800/1000MHz MyungJoo Ham
2010-07-15  9:06     ` [PATCH 3/5] ARM: S5PV210: macros for clock registers at regs-clock.h MyungJoo Ham
2010-07-15  9:06       ` [PATCH 4/5] ARM: S5PV210: add DMCx access virtual address MyungJoo Ham
2010-07-15  9:06         ` [PATCH 5/5] ARM: S5PV210: Initial CPUFREQ Support MyungJoo Ham
2010-07-15 11:59           ` Mark Brown
2010-07-16  5:37             ` MyungJoo Ham
2010-07-16  5:42               ` Kyungmin Park
2010-07-16  6:23                 ` MyungJoo Ham
2010-07-16  8:17               ` Mark Brown
2010-07-16  8:30                 ` MyungJoo Ham
2010-07-16  8:42                   ` Mark Brown
2010-07-16  9:01                     ` MyungJoo Ham
2010-07-16  9:37                       ` Mark Brown [this message]
2010-07-19  0:40                         ` MyungJoo Ham
2010-07-19  9:09                           ` Mark Brown
2010-07-19 10:57                             ` MyungJoo Ham
2010-07-16 12:04     ` [PATCH 2/5] ARM: S5P: Added default pll values for APLL 800/1000MHz Kukjin Kim

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