From: Casey Leedom <leedom@chelsio.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: shemminger@vyatta.com, andy@greyhouse.net, harald@redhat.com,
bhutchings@solarflare.com, sassmann@redhat.com,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
gospo@redhat.com, gregory.v.rose@intel.com,
alexander.h.duyck@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] sysfs: add entry to indicate network interfaces with random MAC address
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:29:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201007211129.48288.leedom@chelsio.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100721.103249.107094774.davem@davemloft.net>
| From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
| Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:32 am
|
| From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
| Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:28:16 -0700
|
| > IMHO no local assigned address should be used by udev. The cxgb4 driver
| > should be using random value.
| >
| > Does anyone have an example of locally assigned address that has
| > persistence so that udev could use it.
|
| The cxgb4 vf addresses are not random because they are fetched from the
| card's NVRAM/EEPROM/firmware/whatever and thus are persistent.
|
| We definitely want udev to use persistent rules for them.
|
| This whole issue only exists because of the Intel VF case, where it
| lacks persistent addresses but somehow we want to assign persistent
| names to it's VF interfaces.
Yes, we _explicitly_ wanted to have persistent MAC Addresses for our PCI-E SR-
IOV Virtual Functions for a whole raft of reasons. The two most important were:
1. Linux' model for persistent device naming today seems to be
oriented around persistent network device addresses.
2. Lots of data centers use MAC addresses for things like DHCP/BOOTP,
security/filtering, etc.
Our design goal was to look as much like a normal Ethernet MAC as possible in
order to reduce the need for software/behavior changes.
| One idea I've proposed in other discussions about this is that if the
| address is not persistent (either via the MAC address bit or the sysfs
| value we're thinking of providing here) we use the device's geographic
| location ("device path") as the key for udev stuff.
Another option might be to have a new Net Device Operations call to ask the
adapter for a Unique Key. This could be formed for most devices via a tuple of
the {PCI Vendor ID, PCI Device ID, Adapter Serial Number, Port Number, [and if
applicable] Adapter Function ID}. Of course this could be a fairly long string
... :-)
Casey
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-21 18:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-20 10:50 [PATCH net-next] sysfs: add entry to indicate network interfaces with random MAC address Stefan Assmann
2010-07-20 11:20 ` Ben Hutchings
2010-07-20 11:47 ` Stefan Assmann
2010-07-20 11:58 ` Alex Badea
2010-07-20 12:17 ` Stefan Assmann
2010-07-20 20:18 ` David Miller
2010-07-21 8:10 ` Stefan Assmann
2010-07-21 13:54 ` Ben Hutchings
2010-07-22 12:50 ` [PATCH net-next] sysfs: add attribute to indicate hw address assignment type Stefan Assmann
2010-07-22 14:07 ` Ben Hutchings
2010-07-22 14:47 ` Stefan Assmann
2010-07-25 3:50 ` David Miller
2010-07-20 12:07 ` [PATCH net-next] sysfs: add entry to indicate network interfaces with random MAC address Ben Hutchings
2010-07-20 12:41 ` Stefan Assmann
2010-07-20 14:29 ` Ben Hutchings
2010-07-20 20:17 ` David Miller
2010-07-20 21:18 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-07-20 21:20 ` David Miller
2010-07-21 6:26 ` Harald Hoyer
2010-07-21 6:34 ` David Miller
2010-07-21 6:47 ` Harald Hoyer
2010-07-21 15:07 ` Andy Gospodarek
2010-07-21 16:34 ` Casey Leedom
2010-07-21 17:28 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-07-21 17:32 ` David Miller
2010-07-21 18:29 ` Casey Leedom [this message]
2010-07-21 18:39 ` David Miller
2010-07-21 19:25 ` Casey Leedom
2010-07-21 18:43 ` Rose, Gregory V
2010-07-21 18:48 ` David Miller
2010-07-21 18:50 ` David Miller
2010-07-21 19:02 ` Rose, Gregory V
2010-07-21 19:33 ` David Miller
2010-07-21 19:35 ` Rose, Gregory V
2010-07-22 7:12 ` Ian Campbell
2010-07-22 6:53 ` Stefan Assmann
2010-07-23 0:26 ` Casey Leedom
2010-07-23 8:08 ` Stefan Assmann
2010-07-23 16:35 ` Casey Leedom
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