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From: Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>
To: Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
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	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v1 02/15] perf: export generic hardware events via sysfs
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:02:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100728100217.GN26154@erda.amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C4F1CBB.7040003@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 27.07.10 13:51:55, Corey Ashford wrote:
> On 07/27/2010 01:27 AM, Robert Richter wrote:
> > On 26.07.10 22:18:23, Lin Ming wrote:
> >
> >>>> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/events
> >>>> |-- L1-dcache-load-misses
> >>>> |   |-- config
> >>>> |   `-- type
> >
> > vs.
> >
> >>>   |-- L1-dcache-load-misses  ===>  event name
> >>>   |   `-- id                 ===>  event id
> >
> >>> This is very simple and flexible and solves the original problem too.
> >>
> >> Yeah, this is flexible. I'll think about this closely.
> >
> > The thing is, if you start introducing the config/type i/f, we will
> > stick with it for a long time. I want to avoid this from the
> > beginning.
> >
> > Using an id only would work with your current implementation too, you
> > only need to maintain an id ->  config/type mapping, maybe in some
> > private data section, without exporting it to userspace.
> 
> Now that I understand that the sysfs id essentially points to a kernel 
> data structure, I like this idea a lot.  Before I was thinking that you 
> were trying to place a lot of info into the id itself.
> 
> The only downside I see, and maybe it's a very minor one, is that you'll 
> no longer have the ability to specify an event without specifying a 
> sysfs path... there's no other mechanism.

Right, the id is generated dynamically, it could be an incremented u64
value, a pointer to a kernel structure or something else. Its
implementation could even change from kernel to kernel without
breaking the i/f.

Note also, that you will still be able to setup current events using
the traditional way of filling in the syscall structure. Nothing will
change for this.

But yes, a new event could only support a sysfs id setup. And then,
you need sysfs. But you could also implement a non-sysfs setup in
addition.

-Robert

-- 
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Operating System Research Center


  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-28 10:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-22 11:12 [RFC][PATCH v1 02/15] perf: export generic hardware events via sysfs Lin Ming
2010-07-23 10:44 ` Robert Richter
2010-07-27  2:18   ` Lin Ming
2010-07-27  8:27     ` Robert Richter
2010-07-27 17:51       ` Corey Ashford
2010-07-28 10:02         ` Robert Richter [this message]
2010-07-29  3:29   ` Lin Ming

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