From: Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] what touches the LUKS header?
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 01:35:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100809233510.GA28803@tansi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100809230403.GA24747@limpoc.com>
On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 04:04:04PM -0700, epvdm@limpoc.com wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 05:57:26AM +0200, Arno Wagner wrote:
> > > Oh, certainly. I spent a long time on this before even looking into other
> > > possibilities. I put the disks on another machine to test, and tried with
> > > the passphrase in a keyfile, loaded with --key-file, with and without
> > > trailing cr/lf, as well as typing the passphrase in the clear and cut-n-pasting
> > > it into the cryptsetup prompt.
> >
> > Ok. Have you tried one of your backups for comparison as well?
> > They should work. Just for completeness...
> >
> > Incidentially, your backups should contain a good header + key-slots,
> > so copying them over should repair any possible damage. See
> > FAQ item on making header backups. But don't do that yet, compare
> > the first 1MiB+4096B of a backup and a life disk first. Any header
> > or key-slot corruption should show up as difference. If there is no
> > difference, then you have some other problem.
>
> The "real" backups are taken from the mounted filesystem, so they don't
> contain the LUKS key material. The mirror-copies I have were all made over
> a short period of time and display the same problem, suggesting that the
> damage happened some time before that and wasn't noticed until the reboot.
I see. A pity.
[...]
> > No, this is a good idea. But do the comparison with the header and
> > key-slots on a working backup disk first. See FAQ item
> > "What does the on-disk structure of LUKS look like?"
> > for exact length and position of the key-slots. A key-slot consists
> > of tighly packed (no spacer or unused space) anti-forensic stripes
> > and looks like encrypted data, i.e. "random". If you want to get a
> > feel for it, FAQ item "How do I use LUKS with a loop-device?" gives
> > instructions how to do LUKS on a file via the loop-device.
>
> This is interesting. Looking through the first 1MiB+4096B I see quite a
> lot of material that is obviously not key material - i.e, text, perl
> snippets, and other stuff one would ordinarily see lying around a linux
> system disk. Now, there was only ever a single LUKS keyslot in use, so if
> the space dedicated to to the rest of them does not get initialized, it
> could be that I am just seeing what was on the disk before LUKS was
> initialized. However, it could also be bits of other areas of the disk, or
> buffer cache, that got written to the keyslot areas.
The space does not get initialized. So for you the first 128kiB would
be the relevant area.
> > > thanks very much for your help, btw.
> >
> > You are welcome.
> >
> > Sorry for pointing to the FAQ so often, it really gives you most
> > of the info you need. Current copy posted on this list today or
> > on the web at
> >
> > http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> >
>
> The FAQ is very helpful; sorry I missed a few parts such as the
> size of the key area. :)
It has gotten a bit long, addmitedly.
Arno
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Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-07 21:06 [dm-crypt] what touches the LUKS header? epvdm
2010-08-08 0:53 ` Arno Wagner
2010-08-08 1:48 ` epvdm
2010-08-08 3:57 ` Arno Wagner
2010-08-09 23:04 ` epvdm
2010-08-09 23:35 ` Arno Wagner [this message]
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