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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	dvhltc@us.ibm.com, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com,
	eric.dumazet@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/10] rcu: Add a TINY_PREEMPT_RCU
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:07:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100816220705.GA18650@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100816215555.GL2388@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

* Paul E. McKenney (paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:41:23PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > * Paul E. McKenney (paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 03:19:47PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > > * Paul E. McKenney (paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:07:37AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > > > > * Paul E. McKenney (paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +/*
> > > > > > > + * Tiny-preemptible RCU implementation for rcu_read_unlock().
> > > > > > > + * Decrement ->rcu_read_lock_nesting.  If the result is zero (outermost
> > > > > > > + * rcu_read_unlock()) and ->rcu_read_unlock_special is non-zero, then
> > > > > > > + * invoke rcu_read_unlock_special() to clean up after a context switch
> > > > > > > + * in an RCU read-side critical section and other special cases.
> > > > > > > + */
> > > > > > > +void __rcu_read_unlock(void)
> > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > +	struct task_struct *t = current;
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +	barrier();  /* needed if we ever invoke rcu_read_unlock in rcutiny.c */
> > > > > > > +	if (--t->rcu_read_lock_nesting == 0 &&
> > > > > > > +	    unlikely(t->rcu_read_unlock_special))
> > > > > 
> > > > > First, thank you for looking this over!!!
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Hrm I think we discussed this in a past life, but would the following
> > > > > > sequence be possible and correct ?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > CPU 0
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > read t->rcu_read_unlock_special
> > > > > >   interrupt comes in, preempts. sets t->rcu_read_unlock_special
> > > > > >   <preempted>
> > > > > >   <scheduled back>
> > > > > >   iret
> > > > > > decrement and read t->rcu_read_lock_nesting
> > > > > > test both old "special" value (which we have locally on the stack) and
> > > > > > detect that rcu_read_lock_nesting is 0.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We actually missed a reschedule.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I think we might need a barrier() between the t->rcu_read_lock_nesting
> > > > > > and t->rcu_read_unlock_special reads.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You are correct -- I got too aggressive in eliminating synchronization.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Good catch!!!
> > > > > 
> > > > > I added an ACCESS_ONCE() to the second term of the "if" condition so
> > > > > that it now reads:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	if (--t->rcu_read_lock_nesting == 0 &&
> > > > > 	    unlikely((ACCESS_ONCE(t->rcu_read_unlock_special)))
> > > > > 
> > > > > This prevents the compiler from reordering because the ACCESS_ONCE()
> > > > > prohibits accessing t->rcu_read_unlock_special unless the value of
> > > > > t->rcu_read_lock_nesting is known to be zero.
> > > > 
> > > > Hrm, --t->rcu_read_lock_nesting does not have any globally visible
> > > > side-effect, so the compiler is free to reorder the memory access across
> > > > the rcu_read_unlock_special access. I think we need the ACCESS_ONCE()
> > > > around the t->rcu_read_lock_nesting access too.
> > > 
> > > Indeed, it is free to reorder that access.  This has the effect of
> > > extending the scope of the RCU read-side critical section, which is
> > > harmless as long as it doesn't pull a lock or some such into it.
> > > 
> > 
> > So what happens if we get:
> > 
> > CPU 0
> > 
> > read t->rcu_read_lock_nesting
> > check if equals to 1
> > read t->rcu_read_unlock_special
> >   interrupt comes in, preempts. sets t->rcu_read_unlock_special
> >   <preempted>
> >   <scheduled back>
> >   iret
> > decrement t->rcu_read_lock_nesting
> 
> Moving this down past the check of t->rcu_read_lock_special (which is
> now covered by ACCESS_ONCE()) would violate the C standard, as it would
> be equivalent to moving a volatile up past a sequence point.

Hrm, I'm not quite convinced yet. I am not concerned about gcc moving
the volatile access prior to the sequence point (as you say, this is
forbidden by the C standard), but rather that:

--(t->rcu_read_lock_nesting)

could be split in two distinct operations:

read t->rcu_read_lock_nesting
decrement t->rcu_read_lock_nesting

Note that in order to know the result required to pass the sequence
point "&&" (the test), we only need to perform the read, not the
decrement. AFAIU, gcc would be in its rights to move the
t->rcu_read_lock_nesting update after the volatile access.

Thanks,

Mathieu

> 
> 							Thanx, Paul
> 
> > test rcu_read_unlock_special value (read prior to interrupt)
> >  -> fails to notice the preemption that came in after the
> >     rcu_read_unlock_special read.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Mathieu
> > 
> > -- 
> > Mathieu Desnoyers
> > Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
> > EfficiOS Inc.
> > http://www.efficios.com

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-16 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-09 22:14 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/N] Additional RCU commits queued for 2.6.37 Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-09 22:15 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/10] rcu head remove init Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-09 22:15 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/10] Update documentation to note the passage of INIT_RCU_HEAD() Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-09 22:15 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/10] Update call_rcu() usage, add synchronize_rcu() Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-09 22:15 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/10] rcu: allow RCU CPU stall warning messages to be controlled in /sys Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-09 22:15 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/10] rcu: restrict TREE_RCU to SMP builds with !PREEMPT Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-09 22:15 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/10] rcu: Allow RCU CPU stall warnings to be off at boot, but manually enablable Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-09 22:15 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/10] rcu: Fix RCU_FANOUT help message Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-09 22:15 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/10] rcu: Add a TINY_PREEMPT_RCU Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-16 15:07   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-16 18:33     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-16 19:19       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-16 21:32         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-16 21:41           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-16 21:55             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-16 22:07               ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2010-08-16 22:24                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-17  9:36                   ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-08-17 14:35                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-17 13:27                 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-08-17 14:16                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-17 14:54                     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-08-17 15:55                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-17 16:04                         ` Steven Rostedt
2010-08-17 16:06                           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-08-17 16:25                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-17 19:33                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-17 20:00                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-09 22:15 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/10] rcu: update obsolete rcu_read_lock() comment Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-16 14:45   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-16 17:55     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-16 18:24       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-09 22:15 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/10] rcu: refer RCU CPU stall-warning victims to stallwarn.txt Paul E. McKenney

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