From: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>
To: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
Michael Kerrisk <michael.kerrisk@gmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] notification tree: directory events
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:16:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201008201416.10679.agruen@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1282275497.21419.2073.camel@acb20005.ipt.aol.com>
On Friday 20 August 2010 05:38:17 Eric Paris wrote:
> As to when a listener dies: You have to define 'dies'.
I meant a process that gets killed or simply exits while there are outstanding
perm events. Nothing in the code would wake up the processes blocked on the
perm event; they will simply be stuck forever. (They cannot even be killed
with SIGKILL.)
This is easy to reproduce with a listener that is killed while processing a
perm event: just run the fanotify example [1] with the new -s option and hit
^C while it is sleeping.
Bonus points would be awarded to make a process blocked on a listener killable
with SIGKILL or other lethal signals.
[1] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/agruen/fanotify-example.git
The listener will also hang forever in that case; not sure why that is the
case.
I already told you about this before (http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/8/16/349); not
sure why everything needs to repeated multiple times until it sinks in.
> If the process just stops respond it is supposed to lock forever.
I agree.
> I was explicitly ask to remove timeouts (even though I've already been ask
> off list to put them back)
I disagree with putting timeouts back in.
> In Linus' tree there is a race in which both processes (the
> listener and the process doing an action waiting on the listener) can
> deadlock and hang forever. A (much less racy but not right) patch to
> fix this has already been posted.
>
> I have a better version which has worked well for me today which I will
> likely post tomorrow morning after I look over it again. I'd love your
> feedback.
Do you have a pointer to that?
Thanks,
Andreas
prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-20 12:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-06 15:58 [GIT PULL] notification tree - try 37! Eric Paris
2010-08-06 23:34 ` Matt Helsley
2010-08-07 0:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-07 19:15 ` Eric Paris
2010-08-07 20:55 ` Matt Helsley
2010-08-16 20:32 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-17 3:39 ` Eric Paris
2010-08-17 4:03 ` Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <1282016387.21419.113.camel-u/cB4NFi02V49Jlha2NJH1aTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-17 4:03 ` Matt Helsley
2010-08-17 8:09 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-17 15:08 ` Eric Paris
2010-08-19 20:24 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-19 20:32 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-19 20:42 ` Eric Paris
2010-08-19 21:07 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-19 21:22 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-20 3:50 ` Eric Paris
2010-08-20 12:38 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-23 16:46 ` Eric Paris
2010-08-23 22:38 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-20 0:00 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-17 8:38 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-17 15:24 ` Eric Paris
2010-08-17 15:48 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-18 14:18 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-17 9:45 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2010-08-17 10:01 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-17 10:12 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2010-08-17 10:55 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2010-08-17 15:27 ` Eric Paris
2010-08-18 15:47 ` [GIT PULL] notification tree: directory events Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-18 15:59 ` Eric Paris
2010-08-18 16:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-18 17:07 ` Eric Paris
2010-08-19 12:44 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-19 15:00 ` Eric Paris
2010-08-19 23:41 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-20 3:38 ` Eric Paris
2010-08-20 5:19 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-08-20 9:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-20 15:29 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-20 20:39 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-08-20 9:09 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2010-08-20 11:07 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-20 11:25 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-08-20 12:16 ` Andreas Gruenbacher [this message]
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