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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	agl@us.ibm.com, qemu list <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] qerror: Add a new MACHINE_STOPPED error message
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:58:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100827125827.GD22361@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C77B209.6050902@codemonkey.ws>

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 07:39:37AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 08/27/2010 04:29 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:57:10AM +0530, Amit Shah wrote:
> >   
> >>This error message denotes some command was not successful in completing
> >>as the guest was unresponsive.
> >>
> >>Use it in the virtio-balloon code when showing older, cached data.
> >>
> >>Signed-off-by: Amit Shah<amit.shah@redhat.com>
> >>---
> >>  hw/virtio-balloon.c |    1 +
> >>  qerror.c            |    4 ++++
> >>  qerror.h            |    3 +++
> >>  3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> >>
> >>diff --git a/hw/virtio-balloon.c b/hw/virtio-balloon.c
> >>index d6c66cf..309c343 100644
> >>--- a/hw/virtio-balloon.c
> >>+++ b/hw/virtio-balloon.c
> >>@@ -140,6 +140,7 @@ static void complete_stats_request(VirtIOBalloon *vb)
> >>
> >>  static void show_old_stats(void *opaque)
> >>  {
> >>+    qerror_report(QERR_MACHINE_STOPPED);
> >>      complete_stats_request(opaque);
> >>  }
> >>     
> >
> >NACK. It has always been allowed&  valid to call query-balloon
> >to get the current balloon level. We must not throw an error
> >just because the recently added mem stats can't be refreshed.
> 
> I think that's a fair comment but why even bother fixing the command.  
> Let's introduce a new command that just gets a single piece of 
> information instead of having a command return lots of information.

The existing query-balloon command that has been around for years &
is used by all current apps has a significant regression since we added
the memstats code to it: a guest can now trivially inflict a DOS on the
mgmt app if it crashes or is malicious. IMHO we need to fix that regression
for 0.13 so that existing apps don't suffer[1]. Adding a timeout to silently
skip the stats refresh if the guest doesn't respond, but without raising
an error seems the best tradeoff we can do here.

Beyond fixing that regression, I agree that this command is terminally
flawed & we need to deprecate it & provide better specified new
replacement(s). This seems like 0.14 work to me though.

Regards,
Daniel

[1] I know that they could already suffer if there was a bug in qemu
    that prevented it responding, even if the guest was not being
    malicious/crashed.
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-27 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-27  5:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/3] virtio-balloon: Don't wait indefinitely for guest response Amit Shah
2010-08-27  5:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/3] balloon: Don't try fetching info if guest is unresponsive Amit Shah
2010-08-27  5:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/3] qerror: Add a new MACHINE_STOPPED error message Amit Shah
2010-08-27  9:29   ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-08-27 12:39     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-27 12:58       ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2010-08-27 13:59         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-27 14:15           ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-08-27 14:59             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-27 15:33               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-08-27 15:45                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-27 16:08               ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-08-27 19:02                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-27 19:24                   ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-08-27 19:37                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-27 20:58                       ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-08-30 14:52                       ` Should QMP be RPC to internal C interfaces? (was: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] qerror: Add a new MACHINE_STOPPED error message) Markus Armbruster
2010-08-30 15:28                         ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Should QMP be RPC to internal C interfaces? Anthony Liguori
2010-08-30 15:38                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-30 16:16                             ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-08-30 16:26                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-31 12:48                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-31 12:58                                   ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-08-31 13:05                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-31  8:47                           ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-31 13:03                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-28  0:52       ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] qerror: Add a new MACHINE_STOPPED error message Amit Shah
2010-08-30  8:30         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-30 13:06           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-30 15:01             ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-30 19:17               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Disable virtio-balloon memory stats interface Adam Litke
2010-08-31  3:42                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Amit Shah
2010-09-08 10:57                   ` Amit Shah
2010-08-27  5:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/3] balloon: Don't try fetching info if machine is stopped Amit Shah

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