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From: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To: Sundar R IYER <sundar.iyer@stericsson.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"samu.p.onkalo@nokia.com" <samu.p.onkalo@nokia.com>,
	Linus WALLEIJ <linus.walleij@stericsson.com>,
	Naveen Kumar GADDIPATI <naveen.gaddipati@stericsson.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Jayeeta BANDYOPADHYAY <jayeeta.banerjee@stericsson.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [RFC] input: syfs switches for SKE keypad
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:57:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101013095737.GI6424@rakim.wolfsonmicro.main> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33A307AF30D7BF4F811B1568FE7A9B180468A9419A@EXDCVYMBSTM006.EQ1STM.local>

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 08:16:20AM +0200, Sundar R IYER wrote:

> >> This isn't *really* about saving power in the individual device; it's
> >> more about stopping the device generating events that disrupt the rest
> >> of the system.  Suspending the device can be one way of doing that and
> >> is useful if it can be done but is not really the immediate goal here.

> >Runtime PM is _not_ a reliable way of preventing a device from
> >generating events.  It is meant for saving energy, nothing else.

> >If that's what this is about, then the answer is simple: Don't use
> >runtime PM to try to suppress events.

> I think it is unfair to discriminate here about saving power and turning off
> events. I believe putting the device into power save leads to, if device permits
> preventing generating events is valid to hook up run time PM.

This is the opposite way around to expectations - the expectation is
that runtime power management will flow from the device becoming idle
enough to turn off rather than the other way around.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-13  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-05 16:54 [RFC] input: syfs switches for SKE keypad Sundar R IYER
2010-10-05 17:41 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-06  8:32   ` Trilok Soni
2010-10-06  8:56     ` Sundar R IYER
2010-10-06  9:48       ` Onkalo Samu
2010-10-06 11:41         ` Trilok Soni
2010-10-06 11:58           ` Sundar R IYER
2010-10-06 15:43           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-06 16:19             ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-10-06 17:18               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-06 18:19                 ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 18:26                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-06 18:51                     ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 19:08                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-06 19:08                     ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-06 20:08                       ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 20:08                       ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-10-09 10:52                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-09 10:52                         ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-09 22:46                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-09 23:02                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-09 23:02                             ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-10 20:34                               ` Alan Stern
2010-10-10 20:51                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-10 21:09                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-10 22:24                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-10 22:24                                     ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-11 15:56                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-10-11 22:33                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-11 22:33                                         ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-12  0:08                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-12  0:08                                           ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-10-12 18:46                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-12 18:46                                             ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-11 15:56                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-10-11  3:16                                     ` [linux-pm] " Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-11 16:06                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-10-11 16:06                                       ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-10-11 16:15                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-11 16:15                                         ` [linux-pm] " Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-11 16:53                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-11 17:07                                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-11 21:54                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-10-11 22:08                                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-11 22:08                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-12  7:25                                                   ` Sundar R IYER
2010-10-12  7:25                                                   ` [linux-pm] " Sundar R IYER
2010-10-12 15:34                                                     ` Alan Stern
2010-10-12 15:53                                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-12 15:53                                                       ` [linux-pm] " Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-12 17:45                                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-10-12 17:45                                                         ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-10-12 16:32                                                       ` Sundar R IYER
2010-10-12 16:32                                                       ` [linux-pm] " Sundar R IYER
2010-10-12 17:49                                                       ` Mark Brown
2010-10-12 17:49                                                       ` [linux-pm] " Mark Brown
2010-10-12 18:27                                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-10-12 18:27                                                         ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-10-12 18:30                                                           ` Mark Brown
2010-10-12 18:30                                                           ` Mark Brown
2010-10-13  6:16                                                           ` [linux-pm] " Sundar R IYER
2010-10-13  9:57                                                             ` Mark Brown [this message]
2010-10-13 14:10                                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-10-13 14:10                                                               ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-10-13 17:25                                                                 ` Sundar
2010-10-13 17:25                                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Sundar
2010-10-13 17:37                                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-13 17:42                                                                     ` Sundar
2010-10-13 18:00                                                                       ` Sundar
2010-10-13 18:00                                                                       ` [linux-pm] " Sundar
2010-10-13 20:26                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-14 13:50                                                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-14 13:50                                                                           ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-10-14 19:00                                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-15 16:04                                                                               ` Sundar
2010-10-15 16:04                                                                               ` [linux-pm] " Sundar
2010-10-14 19:00                                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-13 20:26                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-13 17:42                                                                     ` Sundar
2010-10-13 17:37                                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-13  9:57                                                             ` Mark Brown
2010-10-13  6:16                                                           ` Sundar R IYER
2010-10-12 15:34                                                     ` Alan Stern
2010-10-11 21:54                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-10-11 17:07                                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-11 16:53                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-11  3:16                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-10 21:09                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-10 20:51                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-10 20:34                               ` Alan Stern
2010-10-09 22:46                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-13  7:11         ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2010-10-13 17:35           ` Ferenc Wagner
2010-10-13 19:20             ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek

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