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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: Theodore Kilgore <kilgota@banach.math.auburn.edu>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	codalist@telemann.coda.cs.cmu.edu, autofs@linux.kernel.org,
	Samuel Ortiz <samuel@sortiz.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>,
	Jan Harkes <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Anders Larsen <al@alarsen.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Bryan Schumaker <bjschuma@netapp.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	ksummit-2010-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Petr Vandrovec <vandrove@vc.cvut.cz>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Evgeniy Dushistov <dushistov@mail.ru>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Hendry <andrew.hendry@gmail.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2010-discuss] [v2] Remaining BKL users, what to do
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 15:26:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201010191526.01887.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201010190926.54635.arnd@arndb.de>

On Tuesday 19 October 2010, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 October 2010 06:52:32 Dave Airlie wrote:
> > > I might be able to find some hardware still lying around here that uses an
> > > i810. Not sure unless I go hunting it. But I get the impression that if
> > > the kernel is a single-CPU kernel there is not any problem anyway? Don't
> > > distros offer a non-smp kernel as an installation option in case the user
> > > needs it? So in reality how big a problem is this?
> > 
> > Not anymore, which is my old point of making a fuss. Nowadays in the
> > modern distro world, we supply a single kernel that can at runtime
> > decide if its running on SMP or UP and rewrite the text section
> > appropriately with locks etc. Its like magic, and something like
> > marking drivers as BROKEN_ON_SMP at compile time is really wrong when
> > what you want now is a runtime warning if someone tries to hotplug a
> > CPU with a known iffy driver loaded or if someone tries to load the
> > driver when we are already in SMP mode.
> 
> We could make the driver run-time non-SMP by adding
> 
> 	if (num_present_cpus() > 1) {
> 		pr_err("i810 no longer supports SMP\n");
> 		return -EINVAL;
> 	}
> 
> to the init function. That would cover the vast majority of the
> users of i810 hardware, I guess.

Some research showed that Intel never support i810/i815 SMP setups,
but there was indeed one company (http://www.acorpusa.com at the time,
now owned by a domain squatter) that made i815E based dual Pentium-III
boards like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/280319795096

The first person that can send me an authentic log file showing the
use of X.org with DRM on a 2.6.35 kernel with two processors on that
mainboard dated today or earlier gets a free upgrade to an AGP graphics
card of comparable or better 3D performance from me. Please include
the story how why you are running this machine with a new kernel.

i830 is harder, apparently some i865G boards support Pentium 4 with HT
and even later dual-core processors.

	Arnd

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-19 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-16 14:32 Remaining BKL users, what to do Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-16 14:32 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-16 14:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-16 14:49   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-16 18:32   ` Jens Axboe
2010-09-16 18:32     ` Jens Axboe
2010-09-17 18:46     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 18:46       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 18:46       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-16 15:04 ` Jan Kara
2010-09-16 15:04   ` Jan Kara
2010-09-16 21:26   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2010-09-16 21:26     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2010-09-17 10:45     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 10:45       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 13:32       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-17 13:32         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-17 13:50         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 13:50           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 14:02           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-17 14:02             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-17 14:56             ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 14:56               ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 19:00               ` [PATCH] BKL: Remove BKL from isofs Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-20 10:58                 ` Jan Kara
2010-09-20 11:13                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-20 15:18                     ` Jan Kara
2010-09-20 15:40                       ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2010-09-20 15:50                         ` Jan Kara
2010-09-16 15:07 ` Remaining BKL users, what to do Alan Cox
2010-09-16 20:08   ` David Miller
2010-09-16 16:09 ` Anders Larsen
2010-09-16 16:09   ` Anders Larsen
2010-09-16 16:57 ` Samuel Ortiz
2010-09-16 16:57   ` Samuel Ortiz
2010-09-16 20:08   ` David Miller
2010-09-16 20:08     ` David Miller
2010-09-16 19:00 ` Jan Harkes
2010-09-16 19:26   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-20  1:25 ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2010-10-18 15:42 ` [v2] " Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-18 15:42   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-18 16:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-18 16:19     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-18 17:38     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-18 17:38       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-18 18:43   ` [Ksummit-2010-discuss] " Greg KH
2010-10-18 23:00     ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19  0:40       ` Greg KH
2010-10-19  0:57         ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19  2:24           ` Greg KH
2010-10-19  2:45             ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19  3:33               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-10-19  4:03                 ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19  4:03                   ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19  5:00                 ` Theodore Kilgore
2010-10-19  4:52                   ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19  7:26                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 12:39                       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-10-19 13:36                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 13:36                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 13:43                           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-10-19 13:57                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 13:57                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 13:54                         ` Paul Mundt
2010-10-19 13:26                       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2010-10-19 20:50                         ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19 20:50                           ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-20 16:14                           ` Ville Syrjälä
2010-10-20 16:14                             ` Ville Syrjälä
2010-10-19 18:24         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-10-19 19:37           ` Greg KH
2010-10-19 19:40             ` Oliver Neukum
2010-10-19 20:29               ` Greg KH
2010-10-19 20:38                 ` Jiri Kosina
2010-10-19 20:41                 ` Alan Cox
2010-10-19 20:48                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 20:44                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-20  4:43                   ` Dave Young
2010-10-20  6:50                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-02  1:21                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-11-03  6:58                     ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-05  2:27                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-05  7:14                         ` Pekka Enberg
2010-10-21 12:42       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-21 12:42         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-21 12:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-21 13:38   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-21 13:50     ` [PATCH 1/2] BKL: remove BKL from qnx4 Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-21 15:22       ` Anders Larsen
2010-10-21 13:51     ` [PATCH 2/2] BKL: remove BKL from freevxfs Arnd Bergmann

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