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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Inode Lock Scalability V7 (was V6)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 04:12:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101022031211.GI19804@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101022024834.GA6708@amd>

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 01:48:34PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 01:41:52PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > The locking in my lock break patch is ugly and wrong, yes. But it is
> > always an intermediate step. I want to argue that with RCU inode work
> > *anyway*, there is not much point to reducing the strength of the
> > i_lock property because locking can be cleaned up nicely and still
> > keep i_lock ~= inode_lock (for a single inode).
> 
> The other thing is that with RCU, the idea of locking an object in
> the data structure with a per object lock actually *is* much more
> natural. It's hard to do it properly with just a big data structure
> lock.
> 
> If I want to take a reference to an inode from a data structre, how
> to do it with RCU?
> 
> rcu_read_lock()
> list_for_each(inode) {
>   spin_lock(&big_lock); /* oops, might as well not even use RCU then */
>   if (!unhashed) {
>     iget();
>   }
> }

Huh?  Why the hell does it have to be a big lock?  You grab ->i_lock,
then look at the damn thing.  You also grab it on eviction from the
list - *inside* the lock used for serializing the write access to
your RCU list.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-22  3:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-21  0:49 Inode Lock Scalability V6 Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 01/21] fs: switch bdev inode bdi's correctly Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 02/21] kernel: add bl_list Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 03/21] fs: Convert nr_inodes and nr_unused to per-cpu counters Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 04/21] fs: Implement lazy LRU updates for inodes Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  2:14   ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-10-21 10:07   ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-21 12:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-23  9:32   ` Al Viro
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 05/21] fs: inode split IO and LRU lists Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 06/21] fs: Clean up inode reference counting Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  1:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 07/21] exofs: use iput() for inode reference count decrements Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 08/21] fs: rework icount to be a locked variable Dave Chinner
2010-10-21 19:40   ` Al Viro
2010-10-21 22:32     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 09/21] fs: Factor inode hash operations into functions Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 10/21] fs: Stop abusing find_inode_fast in iunique Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 11/21] fs: move i_ref increments into find_inode/find_inode_fast Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 12/21] fs: remove inode_add_to_list/__inode_add_to_list Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 13/21] fs: Introduce per-bucket inode hash locks Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 14/21] fs: add a per-superblock lock for the inode list Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 15/21] fs: split locking of inode writeback and LRU lists Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 16/21] fs: Protect inode->i_state with the inode->i_lock Dave Chinner
2010-10-22  1:56   ` Al Viro
2010-10-22  2:26     ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-22  3:14     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-22 10:37       ` Al Viro
2010-10-22 11:40         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-23 21:40           ` Al Viro
2010-10-23 21:37         ` Al Viro
2010-10-24 14:13           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-24 16:21             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-24 19:17               ` Al Viro
2010-10-24 20:04                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-24 20:36                   ` Al Viro
2010-10-24  2:18       ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 17/21] fs: protect wake_up_inode with inode->i_lock Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  2:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-21 13:16     ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 18/21] fs: introduce a per-cpu last_ino allocator Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 19/21] fs: icache remove inode_lock Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  2:14   ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 20/21] fs: Reduce inode I_FREEING and factor inode disposal Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  0:49 ` [PATCH 21/21] fs: do not assign default i_ino in new_inode Dave Chinner
2010-10-21  5:04 ` Inode Lock Scalability V7 (was V6) Dave Chinner
2010-10-21 13:20   ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-21 23:52     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-22  0:45       ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-22  2:20         ` Al Viro
2010-10-22  2:34           ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-22  2:41             ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-22  2:48               ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-22  3:12                 ` Al Viro [this message]
2010-10-22  4:48                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-22  3:07             ` Al Viro
2010-10-22  4:46               ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-22  5:01                 ` Nick Piggin

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