From: Guenter Roeck <guenter.roeck@ericsson.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@cam.ac.uk>
Cc: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>,
"linux-iio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-iio@vger.kernel.org>,
"device-drivers-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org"
<device-drivers-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org>,
Sonic Zhang <sonic.zhang@analog.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/14] staging: iio: adc: new driver for ADT7408 temperature sensors
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:47:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101024234735.GB15616@ericsson.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CC4B8F8.7010005@cam.ac.uk>
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 06:53:44PM -0400, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On 10/23/10 21:29, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > From: Sonic Zhang <sonic.zhang@analog.com>
> Here we enter new territory. This device is already
> supported in hwmon. Do we have a usecase that is not
> covered by that driver?
>
> If this is only for hardware monitoring by Guenter (cc'd) can
> perhaps advise on how to support everything you have here...
>
device_id and manufactory_id (shouldn't that be manufacturer_id ?) don't provide
much value since they are (or could be) already part of the device name.
"capability" reflects a raw register value. I would be opposed to any attribute
like that, since it does not mean anything beyond the driver for that specific chip.
The data it provides might make sense in the driver documentation, but what
is anyone supposed to do with the returned hex value ? That kind of ABI really
does not make any sense. If the reported values are really valuable enough to be
reported, a real abi (eg tempX_accuracy and tempX_resolution) would be much better.
For "power-save" (or "power-down" ?) and "full" mode I am not sure
why suspend/resume isn't used instead. Is that some new upcoming ABI ?
> I'm personally not against having drivers in IIO for devices
> supported elsewhere, but the requirements for justification
> are rather higher. Also care is needed to ensure no issues with
> platform data etc.
>
> Guenter, for your information we have a set of temp drivers coming,
> as a small element of a larger set, from Analog's tree. Those
> I've reviewed so far have wanted to use IIO's event infrastructure
> (which is much more general than hwmon's handling of alarms)
> or have been suitably high performance devices with general
> adc's to satisfy me that they clearly have uses beyond
> hardware monitoring.
>
There should be a generic part and a specific part for such generic devices.
The generic part can be in mfd or somewhere suitable (such as iio), but
the hwmon part should reside in hwmon.
The worst thing to do would be to duplicate functionality as it is proposed here.
That can only create chaos.
If the event mechanism in hwmon is deemed insufficient enough to cause drivers
to move elsewhere, maybe event mechanism in hwmon should be improved instead.
Or, even better, if there is a really need for a more detailed / improved event
mechanism, there should be a single event subsystem that works for both iio
and hwmon.
In short, if the hwmon ABI is deemed to be insufficient to support today's devices,
for whaever reason, it needs to get fixed. Moving hwmon drivers elsewhere to
avoid its perceived (or real) limitations should be an absolute no.
Guenter
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-24 23:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-23 20:29 [PATCH 01/14] staging: iio: adc: new driver for AD7152/3 devices Mike Frysinger
2010-10-23 20:29 ` [PATCH 02/14] staging: iio: adc: new driver for AD7291 devices Mike Frysinger
2010-10-24 21:32 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-10-23 20:29 ` [PATCH 03/14] staging: iio: adc: new driver for AD7298 devices Mike Frysinger
2010-10-24 21:49 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-10-23 20:29 ` [PATCH 04/14] staging: iio: adc: new driver for AD7314 devices Mike Frysinger
2010-10-24 21:56 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-10-26 3:35 ` Zhang, Sonic
2010-10-23 20:29 ` [PATCH 05/14] staging: iio: adc: new driver for AD7414/5 devices Mike Frysinger
2010-10-24 22:03 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-10-23 20:29 ` [PATCH 06/14] staging: iio: adc: new driver for AD7416/7/8 devices Mike Frysinger
2010-10-24 22:19 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-10-23 20:29 ` [PATCH 07/14] staging: iio: adc: new driver for AD7475/6/6A/7/7A/8/8A and AD7495 devices Mike Frysinger
2010-10-24 21:14 ` [Device-drivers-devel] " Mike Frysinger
2010-10-24 22:21 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-10-23 20:29 ` [PATCH 08/14] staging: iio: adc: new driver for AD7745/6/7 devices Mike Frysinger
2010-10-24 22:36 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-10-23 20:29 ` [PATCH 09/14] staging: iio: adc: new driver for AD7816 devices Mike Frysinger
2010-10-23 20:29 ` [PATCH 10/14] staging: iio: adc: new driver for ADT75 temperature sensors Mike Frysinger
2010-10-23 20:29 ` [PATCH 11/14] staging: iio: adc: new driver for ADT7310 " Mike Frysinger
2010-10-23 20:29 ` [PATCH 12/14] staging: iio: adc: new driver for ADT7408 " Mike Frysinger
2010-10-24 22:53 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-10-24 23:47 ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2010-10-25 10:28 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-10-26 4:20 ` Zhang, Sonic
2010-10-26 5:08 ` Guenter Roeck
2010-10-26 5:38 ` Zhang, Sonic
2010-10-26 9:14 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-10-25 0:46 ` Guenter Roeck
2010-10-25 10:32 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-10-25 11:19 ` Guenter Roeck
2010-10-25 11:43 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-10-25 14:12 ` Guenter Roeck
2010-10-25 16:18 ` Hennerich, Michael
2010-10-25 11:47 ` [Device-drivers-devel] " Hennerich, Michael
2010-10-26 3:21 ` Zhang, Sonic
2010-10-26 3:27 ` Zhang, Sonic
2010-10-26 3:52 ` Guenter Roeck
2010-10-26 9:15 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-10-26 14:33 ` Guenter Roeck
2010-11-01 10:56 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-11-01 14:37 ` Guenter Roeck
2010-11-01 15:19 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-10-23 20:29 ` [PATCH 13/14] staging: iio: adc: new driver for ADT7410 " Mike Frysinger
2010-10-23 20:29 ` [PATCH 14/14] staging: iio: adc: new ad799x driver Mike Frysinger
2010-10-24 21:14 ` [Device-drivers-devel] " Mike Frysinger
2010-10-24 22:55 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-10-24 21:09 ` [PATCH 01/14] staging: iio: adc: new driver for AD7152/3 devices Jonathan Cameron
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