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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, hch@infradead.org,
	zohar@us.ibm.com, warthog9@kernel.org, jmorris@namei.org,
	kyle@mcmartin.ca, hpa@zytor.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/11] IMA: use rbtree instead of radix tree for inode information cache
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 10:22:30 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101025232230.GW32255@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101025184118.20504.24290.stgit@paris.rdu.redhat.com>

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 02:41:18PM -0400, Eric Paris wrote:
> The IMA code needs to store the number of tasks which have an open fd
> granting permission to write a file even when IMA is not in use.  It needs
> this information in order to be enabled at a later point in time without
> losing it's integrity garantees.  At the moment that means we store a
> little bit of data about every inode in a cache.  We use a radix tree key'd
> on the inode's memory address.  Dave Chinner pointed out that a radix tree
> is a terrible data structure for such a sparse key space.  This patch
> switches to using an rbtree which should be more efficient.

I'm not sure this is the right fix, though.

Realistically, there is a 1:1 relationship between the inode and the
IMA information. I fail to see why an external index is needed here
at all - just use a separate structure to store the IMA information
that the inode points to. That makes the need for a new global index
and global lock go away completely.

You're already adding 8 bytes to the inode, so why not make it a
pointer. We've got 4 conditions:

1. not configured - no overhead
2. configured, boot time disabled - 8 bytes per inode
3. configured, boot time enabled, runtime disabled - 8 bytes per
inode + small IMA structure
4. configured, boot time enabled, runtime enabled - 8 bytes per
inode + large IMA structure

Anyone who wants the option of runtime enablement can take the extra
allocation overhead, but otherwise nobody is affected apart from 8
bytes of additional memory per inode. I doubt that will change
anything unless it increases the size of the inode enough to push it
over slab boundaries. And if LSM stacking is introduced, then that 8
bytes per inode overhead will go away, anyway.

This approach doesn't introduce new global lock and lookup overhead
into the main VFS paths, allows you to remove a bunch of code and
has a path forward for removing the 8 byte per inode overhead as
well. Seems like the best compromise to me....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-25 23:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-25 18:41 [PATCH 01/11] IMA: use rbtree instead of radix tree for inode information cache Eric Paris
2010-10-25 18:41 ` Eric Paris
2010-10-25 18:41 ` [PATCH 02/11] IMA: drop the inode opencount since it isn't needed for operation Eric Paris
2010-10-25 18:41 ` [PATCH 03/11] IMA: use unsigned int instead of long for counters Eric Paris
2010-10-25 18:41 ` [PATCH 04/11] IMA: convert internal flags from long to char Eric Paris
2010-10-25 18:41 ` [PATCH 05/11] IMA: use inode->i_lock to protect read and write counters Eric Paris
2010-10-25 18:41 ` [PATCH 06/11] IMA: use i_writecount rather than a private counter Eric Paris
2010-10-25 19:27   ` John Stoffel
2010-10-25 21:52     ` Eric Paris
2010-10-25 22:25       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-25 22:29         ` Eric Paris
2010-10-26 13:57           ` John Stoffel
2010-10-26 13:53       ` John Stoffel
2010-10-26 22:08         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-25 18:41 ` [PATCH 07/11] IMA: move read counter into struct inode Eric Paris
2010-10-25 18:42 ` [PATCH 08/11] IMA: only allocate iint when needed Eric Paris
2010-10-25 18:42 ` [PATCH 09/11] IMA: drop refcnt from ima_iint_cache since it isn't needed Eric Paris
2010-10-25 18:42 ` [PATCH 10/11] IMA: explicit IMA i_flag to remove global lock on inode_delete Eric Paris
2010-10-25 18:42 ` [PATCH 11/11] IMA: fix the ToMToU logic Eric Paris
2010-10-25 19:21 ` [PATCH 01/11] IMA: use rbtree instead of radix tree for inode information cache John Stoffel
2010-10-25 19:38   ` J.H.
2010-10-25 20:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-10-25 20:55       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-10-25 20:57       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-25 21:11         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-10-26 14:01           ` John Stoffel
2010-10-26 15:22             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-10-26 15:30               ` Eric Paris
2010-10-26 15:53               ` John Stoffel
2010-10-26 18:13               ` Al Viro
2010-10-27 13:35                 ` James Morris
2010-10-26 14:07       ` John Stoffel
2010-10-26 14:07         ` John Stoffel
2010-10-25 21:34   ` Eric Paris
2010-10-26 13:45     ` John Stoffel
2010-10-25 23:22 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2010-10-26  0:12   ` Eric Paris

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