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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	Borislav Petkov <petkovbb@googlemail.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [NAK] Re: [PATCH -v2 9/9] ACPI, APEI, Generic Hardware Error Source POLL/IRQ/NMI notification type support
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:22:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101026072210.GE13036@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1010260629560.3955@localhost6.localdomain6>


* Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:

> >From Kconfig:
> 
>   EDAC is designed to report errors in the core system.
>   These are low-level errors that are reported in the CPU or
>   supporting chipset or other subsystems:
>   memory errors, cache errors, PCI errors, thermal throttling, etc..
>   If unsure, select 'Y'.
> 
> So please explain why your error reporting is so different from the above that it 
> justifies a separate facility. And you better come up with a real good explanation 
> other than we looked at EDAC and it did not fit our needs.

Btw., it's not just about EDAC - the firmware can store Linux events persistently 
(beyond allowing the firmware to insert its own RAS events), that is obviously 
_hugely_ useful for kernel debugging in general. We could inject debugging events 
there and recover them after a crash, etc.

As long as it's all integrated into the standard event logging facilities it could 
be very useful (and i dont generally complain about things that are insignificant).

As /dev/erst-dbg it's not useful at all - in fact it might close the door to sane 
future usage of this hw facility if some crappy user-space learns to rely on the 
/dev/erst-dbg ABI.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-26  7:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-25  7:43 [PATCH -v2 0/9] ACPI, APEI patches for 2.6.37 Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 1/9] ACPI, APEI, Add ERST record ID cache Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 2/9] Add lock-less version of bitmap_set/clear Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 3/9] lock-less NULL terminated single list implementation Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 4/9] lock-less general memory allocator Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 5/9] Hardware error device core Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 6/9] Hardware error record persistent support Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 7/9] ACPI, APEI, Use ERST for hardware error persisting before panic Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 8/9] ACPI, APEI, Report GHES error record with hardware error device core Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 9/9] ACPI, APEI, Generic Hardware Error Source POLL/IRQ/NMI notification type support Huang Ying
2010-10-25  8:45   ` [NAK] " Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25  8:58     ` Huang Ying
2010-10-25  9:19       ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-25 11:15         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25 12:04           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-10-25 17:07             ` Tony Luck
2010-10-25 17:19               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-10-25 12:37           ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-25 12:55             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25 13:02               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25 13:11               ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-25 13:47                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25 15:14                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-25 17:10                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-27  8:25                       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25 16:38         ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-10-25  9:25       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25 17:14         ` Tony Luck
2010-10-25 20:23           ` Borislav Petkov
2010-10-25 21:23             ` Tony Luck
2010-10-25 21:23               ` Tony Luck
2010-10-25 21:51               ` Borislav Petkov
2010-10-25 21:51                 ` Borislav Petkov
2010-10-25 23:35                 ` Tony Luck
2010-10-26  6:26                   ` Borislav Petkov
2010-10-26  6:26                     ` Borislav Petkov
2010-10-25 23:35                 ` Tony Luck
2010-10-26  1:06     ` Len Brown
2010-10-26  4:53       ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-10-26  7:22         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-10-26  7:30           ` Huang Ying
2010-10-26  7:55             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-26  8:32               ` Huang Ying
2010-10-26 10:03                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-26  8:38         ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-26 10:00           ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-10-26  8:52         ` Huang Ying
2010-10-26 10:15           ` Ingo Molnar

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