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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] writeback: quit background/periodic work when other works are enqueued
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 20:07:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101101120733.GA9006@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100914124033.GA4874@quack.suse.cz>

Hi Jan,

Sorry for the long delay!

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 08:40:33PM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
> On Mon 13-09-10 20:31:12, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> >  From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> > 
> > Background writeback and kupdate-style writeback are easily livelockable
> > (from a definition of their target). This is inconvenient because it can
> > make sync(1) stall forever waiting on its queued work to be finished.
> > Fix the problem by interrupting background and kupdate writeback if there
> > is some other work to do. We can return to them after completing all the
> > queued work.
>   I actually have a slightly updated version with a better changelog:
> 
> Background writeback are easily livelockable (from a definition of their
> target). This is inconvenient because it can make sync(1) stall forever waiting
> on its queued work to be finished. Generally, when a flusher thread has
> some work queued, someone submitted the work to achieve a goal more specific
> than what background writeback does. So it makes sense to give it a priority
> over a generic page cleaning.
> 
> Thus we interrupt background writeback if there is some other work to do. We
> return to the background writeback after completing all the queued work.
> 
>   Could you please update it? Thanks.
> 								Honza
> 
> PS: I've also attached the full patch if that's more convenient for you.

You patches are more complete than mine, so let's use them. However I
do prefer to have a standalone wb_check_background_flush() that is
called _after_ wb_check_old_data_flush(). This helps make the writeout
a bit more ordered and the separation itself looks a bit more clean to
me.

Followed are the slightly updated patches. IMHO they are straightforward
fixes that could be merged before other writeback changes.

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-01 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-13 12:31 [PATCH 0/4] [RFC] transfer vmscan pageout works to the flusher thread Wu Fengguang
2010-09-13 12:31 ` [PATCH 1/4] writeback: integrated background work Wu Fengguang
2010-09-13 22:46   ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-14  0:53     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-14 12:45   ` Jan Kara
2010-09-13 12:31 ` [PATCH 2/4] writeback: quit background/periodic work when other works are enqueued Wu Fengguang
2010-09-14 12:40   ` Jan Kara
2010-11-01 12:07     ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-11-01 15:08       ` Jan Kara
2010-11-01 15:13       ` Jan Kara
2010-11-01 12:14     ` [PATCH 1/2] writeback: integrated background writeback work Wu Fengguang
2010-11-01 12:14       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-01 12:22       ` [PATCH 2/2] writeback: stop background/kupdate works from livelocking other works Wu Fengguang
2010-11-01 12:22         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-01 15:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-02  1:57         ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-02  1:57           ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-05 12:15         ` Johannes Weiner
2010-11-01 15:21       ` [PATCH 1/2] writeback: integrated background writeback work Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-01 20:37         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-01 20:37           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-01 20:39         ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] " Wu Fengguang
2010-11-01 20:39           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-02  1:55           ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-02  1:55             ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-05 12:01           ` Johannes Weiner
2010-09-13 12:31 ` [PATCH 3/4] writeback: introduce bdi_start_inode_writeback() Wu Fengguang
2010-09-14 13:36   ` Jan Kara
2010-11-01 12:35     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-13 12:31 ` [PATCH 4/4] vmscan: transfer async file writeback to the flusher Wu Fengguang

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