From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] fix up lock order reversal in writeback
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:38:45 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101117043845.GA3586@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CE35A6D.2040906@redhat.com>
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:30:37PM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> On 11/16/10 7:01 AM, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Tue 16-11-10 22:00:58, Nick Piggin wrote:
> >> I saw a lock order warning on ext4 trigger. This should solve it.
> >> Raciness shouldn't matter much, because writeback can stop just
> >> after we make the test and return anyway (so the API is racy anyway).
> > Hmm, for now the fix is OK. Ultimately, we probably want to call
> > writeback_inodes_sb() directly from all the callers. They all just want to
> > reduce uncertainty of delayed allocation reservations by writing delayed
> > data and actually wait for some of the writeback to happen before they
> > retry again the allocation.
>
> For ext4, at least, it's just best-effort. We're not actually out of
> space yet when this starts pushing. But it helps us avoid enospc:
>
> commit c8afb44682fcef6273e8b8eb19fab13ddd05b386
> Author: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
> Date: Wed Dec 23 07:58:12 2009 -0500
>
> ext4: flush delalloc blocks when space is low
>
> Creating many small files in rapid succession on a small
> filesystem can lead to spurious ENOSPC; on a 104MB filesystem:
>
> for i in `seq 1 22500`; do
> echo -n > $SCRATCH_MNT/$i
> echo XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > $SCRATCH_MNT/$i
> done
>
> leads to ENOSPC even though after a sync, 40% of the fs is free
> again.
>
> <snip>
>
> We don't need it to be synchronous - in fact I didn't think it was ...
By synchronous, I just mean that the caller is the one who pushes
the data into writeout. It _may_ be better if it was done by background
writeback, with a feedback loop to throttle the caller (preferably
placed outside any locks it is holding).
To be pragmatic, I think the thing is fine to actually solve the
problem at hand. I was just saying that it has a tiny little hackish
feeling anyway, so a trylock will be right at home there :)
> ext4 should probably use btrfs's new variant and just get rid of the
> one I put in, for a very large system/filesystem it could end up doing
> a rather insane amount of IO when the fs starts to get full.
>
> as for the locking problems ... sorry about that!
That's no problem. So is that an ack? :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-17 4:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-16 11:00 [patch] fix up lock order reversal in writeback Nick Piggin
2010-11-16 13:01 ` Jan Kara
2010-11-17 4:30 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-17 4:38 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2010-11-17 5:05 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-17 6:10 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-18 3:06 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-18 3:29 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 6:00 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-18 6:28 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 8:18 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-18 10:51 ` Theodore Tso
2010-11-18 17:58 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-19 5:10 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-19 12:07 ` Theodore Tso
2010-11-18 14:55 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-18 17:10 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 18:04 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-18 18:24 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-18 18:39 ` Chris Mason
2010-11-18 18:36 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 18:51 ` Chris Mason
2010-11-18 20:22 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 20:36 ` Chris Mason
2010-11-18 19:02 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-18 20:17 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 18:33 ` Chris Mason
2010-11-18 23:58 ` Jan Kara
2010-11-19 0:45 ` Jan Kara
2010-11-19 5:16 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-22 18:16 ` Jan Kara
2010-11-23 8:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-23 13:32 ` Jan Kara
2010-11-23 8:15 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-18 18:53 ` Al Viro
2010-11-18 3:18 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-22 23:43 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-16 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-17 3:56 ` Nick Piggin
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