From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vvvvvst@gmail.com>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
Richard Williams <richard@etechsoft.com>,
Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
Mike Christie <michaelc@cs.wisc.edu>,
"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
scst-devel <scst-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>, Andy Yan <ayan@marvell.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Vu Pham <vuhuong@mellanox.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Joel Becker <joel.becker@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [Scst-devel] [PATCH 8/19]: SCST SYSFS interface implementation
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:16:49 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101119211649.GA28606@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CE6E323.8080703@gmail.com>
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:50:43PM +0300, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote:
> Dmitry Torokhov, on 11/19/2010 11:22 PM wrote:
> >> None of the SCST objects are Linux devices. None of them has entries in
> >> /dev, none of them needs to send any events to udev and none of them
> >> sends or receives data from DMA, hence has any DMA parameters or
> >> restrictions. So, how can them fit into the driver/bus/device model you
> >> are enforcing?
> >
> > Note that the entities in /sys/devices/... tree and not necessarily
> > physical devices bit rather interface abstractionss. Consider, for
> > example, /sys/class/input/*. None of the "devices" there talk directly
> > to hardware, do DMA or other things. Some of them don't even talk to
> > usrespace directly but rather through additional interfaces (evdev.
> > mousedev, ect). Still they are represented there and even have suspend
> > and resume methods (because even for logical devices it makes sense to
> > save and restore some state).
This is correct.
> SCST devices are not even logical devices. As I wrote, "devices" word is
> misleading. SCST devices are converse of what Linux means under this
> word. SCST devices are like NFS exports: a place where those events
> generated and those requests received.
No, that's fine.
> Think of SCST device as if it sits on the opposite side of the PCI bus
> of the corresponding SCSI device Linux sees in /sys/class and /sys/bus.
Again, that's fine, look at usb gadgets, it's the same thing.
> So, if we need Linux devices for SCST devices, we create them using
> scst_local driver. And then, of course, all them have their place in
> /sys/class/ and /sys/bus.
No, just /sys/bus/ which will cause them to become part of the big
device tree in /sys/devices/
Again, use this interface, it is what it is there for, to not use it is
just wrong.
good luck,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-19 21:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-01 21:34 [PATCHv4 0/19]: New SCSI target framework (SCST) with dev handlers and 2 target drivers Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:36 ` [PATCH 1/19]: Integration of SCST into the Linux kernel tree Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:36 ` [PATCH 2/19]: SCST core's Makefile and Kconfig Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:38 ` [PATCH 3/19]: SCST public headers Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:39 ` [PATCH 4/19]: SCST main management files and private headers Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:42 ` [PATCH 5/19]: SCST implementation of the SCSI target state machine Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:43 ` [PATCH 6/19]: SCST internal library functions Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:44 ` [PATCH 7/19]: SCST Persistent Reservations implementation Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:46 ` [PATCH 8/19]: SCST SYSFS interface implementation Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-09 21:20 ` Greg KH
2010-10-11 19:29 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-11 21:32 ` Greg KH
2010-10-12 18:53 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-12 19:03 ` Greg KH
2010-10-14 19:48 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-14 20:04 ` Greg KH
2010-10-22 17:30 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-22 17:56 ` Greg KH
2010-10-22 18:40 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-22 18:54 ` Greg KH
2010-11-08 19:58 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-09 0:28 ` Greg KH
2010-11-09 20:06 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-10 9:58 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-11-10 20:19 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-10 20:29 ` Joe Eykholt
2010-11-10 20:38 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-10 20:42 ` Joe Eykholt
2010-11-11 9:59 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-11-11 12:04 ` Greg KH
2010-11-11 14:05 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-11-11 14:16 ` Greg KH
2010-11-11 14:19 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-11-11 20:50 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-12 1:23 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-11-12 12:09 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-11-12 12:09 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-11-12 18:44 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-11-13 10:52 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-11-13 10:52 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-11-13 17:20 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-13 23:59 ` Greg KH
2010-11-15 6:59 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-11-15 17:53 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-11-15 20:36 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-15 9:46 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-11-15 16:16 ` Greg KH
2010-11-15 17:19 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-11-15 17:49 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-11-15 20:19 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-11-16 13:12 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-16 11:59 ` [Scst-devel] " Richard Williams
2010-11-16 13:17 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-18 21:02 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-18 21:46 ` Greg KH
2010-11-19 18:00 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-19 20:22 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-11-19 20:50 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-19 21:16 ` Greg KH [this message]
2010-11-24 20:35 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-19 21:19 ` Greg KH
2010-12-10 12:06 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-12-10 19:36 ` Greg KH
2010-12-14 14:10 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-11-19 18:01 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-11-19 18:01 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-11-15 20:39 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-15 20:39 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-15 17:45 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-11-15 18:44 ` Greg KH
2010-11-15 20:39 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-15 22:13 ` Greg KH
2010-11-16 5:04 ` Joe Eykholt
2010-11-16 6:03 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-11-16 8:49 ` Florian Mickler
2010-11-16 13:18 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-16 7:15 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-11-16 13:19 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-15 20:36 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-15 7:04 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-11-15 20:37 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-11-15 21:14 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-11-16 13:13 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:46 ` [PATCH 9/19]: SCST debugging support routines Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:48 ` [PATCH 10/19]: SCST SGV cache Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:48 ` [PATCH 11/19]: SCST core's docs Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:48 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:49 ` [PATCH 12/19]: SCST dev handlers' Makefile Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:50 ` [PATCH 13/19]: SCST vdisk dev handler Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:51 ` [PATCH 14/19]: SCST pass-through dev handlers Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:53 ` [PATCH 15/19]: Implementation of blk_rq_map_kern_sg() Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:57 ` [PATCH 16/19]: scst_local target driver Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 21:58 ` [PATCH 17/19]: SCST InfiniBand SRP " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 22:04 ` [PATCH 18/19]: ibmvstgt: Port from tgt to SCST Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-01 22:05 ` [PATCH 19/19]: tgt: Removal Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-10-02 7:40 ` [PATCHv4 0/19]: New SCSI target framework (SCST) with dev handlers and 2 target drivers Bart Van Assche
2010-10-02 7:40 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-10-06 20:21 ` [Scst-devel] " Steve Modica
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