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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz-hKgKHo2Ms0FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Roland Dreier <rdreier-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Steve Wise
	<swise-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>,
	"Robert D. Russell" <rdr-zcUZCMB5SQOVc3sceRu5cw@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] libibverbs/doc: clarify selective signaling (Re: using IBV_SEND_SIGNALED)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:57:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101130185744.GK16788@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CF4E65D.4070205-hKgKHo2Ms0FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 01:56:13PM +0200, Or Gerlitz wrote:
> Steve Wise wrote:
> > On 11/29/2010 11:34 AM, Robert D. Russell wrote:
> > See section 8.2.1 of the iWARP Verbs draft at:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hilland-rddp-verbs-00#section-8.2.1.
> > The last big paragraph in 8.2.1 spells it all out.
> > There should be a similar requirement in the IBTA IB Verbs specification...
> 
> Yes, I think the below patch to the man page can help people
> understand how to work with the thing

I think the subtly here is that remote completion of a local WR does
not indiciate local completion. This is the only operational case I
can think of that might break the rules.

For instance a protocol that had remote acks for all SENDs might be
tempted to not ever use signaled WR's on the local side - since
receiving the remote ACK SEND must indicate the local SEND WR is
complete. This is the incorrect assumption.

So, I'd suggest this language:

Applications which use selective signaling can only assume that
unsignaled WRs are complete once a completion for a later signaled WR
is received. In practice this means that a signaled WR must be
used periodically, and that the send queue should never be filled with
unsignaled WRs.

Jason
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2010-11-30 11:56         ` [PATCH] libibverbs/doc: clarify selective signaling (Re: using IBV_SEND_SIGNALED) Or Gerlitz
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2010-11-30 18:57             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
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2010-12-01  8:17                 ` Or Gerlitz
2010-12-01  9:01                 ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                   ` <4CF60ED0.6000502-hKgKHo2Ms0FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-01 19:10                     ` Jason Gunthorpe

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