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From: Jeremy Allison <jra-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: cifs client timeouts and hard/soft mounts
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:49:40 -0800
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On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 12:42:55PM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:01:12 -0600
> "Christopher R. Hertel" <crh-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Question (for which I do not have an answer):  How much work do you want to
> > do to make their intentionally broken model work?
> > 
> 
> Very little...live by the sword, die by the sword :)
> 
> I'm not opposed to trying to work around this sort of brokenness, but
> not at the expense of more conventional configurations.
> 
> If the proxy keeps responding to echoes regardless of what happens on
> the server side of its connection then that sounds really broken to me.
> Does it do nothing to detect whether the server is still around? I don't
> see a way for us to detect such a broken device if not.

There's simply nothing you can do. If a WAN device fakes application
level probes (which is what SMBecho is) then you're toast. Just ignore
WAN devices. They're supposed to be transparent.

Jeremy.