From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tansi.org (ns.km10532-04.keymachine.de [87.118.102.195]) by mail.saout.de (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:27:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from gatewagner.dyndns.org (84-74-164-239.dclient.hispeed.ch [84.74.164.239]) by tansi.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3B556121837F for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:27:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:27:15 +0100 From: Arno Wagner Message-ID: <20101230122715.GA29837@tansi.org> References: <1293466212.4d18ba64b28dc@www.inmano.com> <20101227215200.GA6681@tansi.org> <1293524963.4d199fe3b7cb1@www.inmano.com> <4D19C3FE.1000100@redhat.com> <1293545117.4d19ee9d718e5@www.inmano.com> <4D1A3F2E.8040505@redhat.com> <1293703878.4d1c5ac6e8f21@www.inmano.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1293703878.4d1c5ac6e8f21@www.inmano.com> Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] using a salt for encrypting blocks List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: dm-crypt@saout.de On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 11:11:18AM +0100, octane indice wrote: > En r?ponse ? Milan Broz : > > Good luck. Do you know how easy is to use hw keylogger for > > example? > > yes. > > > How do you detect that attacker installed such hw device when > > he has repeated access to the system? > > TPM will not help here. > > no. TPM won't help against an hw keylogger. > But it will help in order to detect a change in my /boot > partition. And for that, it works. It's so easy to break the > encryption by modifying /boot than something has to be > done. Here, TPM can help, so I use. > > For hardware keylogger, I would use a laptop > very tiny where every change would be noticed. > For example, a mac book air. So thin, you can't add > a hardware keylogger. Good luck with that. Or rather forget about that. There is ample space. Arno -- Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: arno@wagner.name GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 338F ---- Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans If it's in the news, don't worry about it. The very definition of "news" is "something that hardly ever happens." -- Bruce Schneier