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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Chunqiang Tang <ctang@us.ibm.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Propose the Fast Virtual Disk (FVD) image format that outperforms QCOW2 by 249%
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 01:12:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110119011212.GK30268@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF8A78A7CA.8AA950FC-ON85257818.0072949C-85257818.0072E29A@us.ibm.com>

Chunqiang Tang wrote:
> > Based on my limited understanding, I think FVD shares a 
> > lot in common with the COW format (block/cow.c).
> > 
> > But I think most of the advantages you mention could be considered as 
> > additions to either qcow2 or qed.  At any rate, the right way to have 
> > that discussion is in the form of patches on the ML.
> 
> FVD is much more advanced than block/cow.c. I would be happy to discuss 
> possible leverage, but setting aside the details of QCOW2, QED, and FVD, 
> let’s start with a discussion of what is needed for the next generation 
> image format. 

Thank you for the detailed description.

FVD looks quite good to me; it seems very simple yet performant at the
same time, due to its smart yet simple design.

> Moreover, using a host file system not only adds overhead, but 
> also introduces data integrity issues. Specifically, if I/Os uses O_DSYNC, 
> it may be too slow. If I/Os use O_DIRECT, it cannot guarantee data 
> integrity in the event of a host crash. See 
> http://lwn.net/Articles/348739/ . 

You have the same issue with O_DIRECT when using a raw disk device
too.  That is, O_DIRECT on a raw device does not guarantee integrity
in the event of a host crash either, for mostly the same reasons.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-19  1:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-04 21:44 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Propose the Fast Virtual Disk (FVD) image format that outperforms QCOW2 by 249% Chunqiang Tang
2011-01-05 17:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-14 20:56   ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-01-19  1:12     ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2011-01-19  8:10       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-01-19 15:17         ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-01-19 15:25           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-19 23:56           ` Jamie Lokier
2011-01-19 15:51     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-19 16:21       ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-01-19 16:42         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-19 17:08           ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-01-19 17:25             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-06  9:17 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-01-15  3:28   ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-01-15 17:27     ` Stefan Weil
2011-01-20  2:59       ` Chunqiang Tang
     [not found]     ` <AANLkTinw2S2dzKoeFK-dBP6b36J+VNLjb3f-vbkKm3Fz@mail.gmail.com>
2011-01-17 10:37       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-01-18 20:35         ` Chunqiang Tang
2011-01-19  0:59           ` Jamie Lokier
2011-01-19 14:59             ` Chunqiang Tang

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