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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: matthieu castet <castet.matthieu@free.fr>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Matthias Hopf <mhopf@suse.de>,
	rjw@sisk.pl, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NX protection for kernel data : fix 32 bits S3 suspend
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 04:58:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110226035805.GA1656@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D56B0E6.5040600@free.fr>

On Sat 2011-02-12 17:10:14, matthieu castet wrote:
> H. Peter Anvin a écrit :
> >On 02/07/2011 11:59 AM, castet.matthieu@free.fr wrote:
> >>For .39 I hope we could remove most of the RWX rights after init (This means
> >>make low memory trampoline NX or !RW).
> >>This should be possible on :
> >>- 32 bit if wakeup use trampoline_32 [1] that doesn't enable paging in low
> >>memory (can be NX)
> >>- trampoline_64 need fix to support NX on data section. It tries to read data
> >>section before enabling NX. A possible fix is to use its own page table [2]. And
> >>the kernel one can be NX.
> >
> >No, you're really barking down the wrong path on this.  The trampoline
> >code is tiny; I don't think it is really worth trying to NX-ify it.  The
> Even if the trampoline is tiny, a hole is a hole.

What kind of hole are you talking about?

If evil code is running in ring0, you already lost.

I doubt you can remove all the trampolines, and I do not think you
should uglify the kernel trying to do that.
								Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-28  6:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-31 23:03 [PATCH] NX protection for kernel data : fix 32 bits S3 suspend matthieu castet
2011-02-01  8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-01 13:25   ` castet.matthieu
2011-02-01 16:30     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-02  6:26     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-03 22:11       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-05  1:12       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-05 16:46         ` castet.matthieu
2011-02-06 23:41           ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-07  7:40             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-07 19:59             ` castet.matthieu
2011-02-07 20:04               ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-12 16:10                 ` matthieu castet
2011-02-14 20:55                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-26  3:58                   ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2011-02-07 20:07               ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-14 21:19               ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-14 22:50                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07  3:56           ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-07  5:16           ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-07  9:24             ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86, nx: Mark the ACPI resume trampoline code as +x tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-07 14:50               ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86, nx: Mark the ACPI resume trampoline code as +x - fixed Marc Koschewski
2011-02-07 15:04                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-07 13:16             ` [PATCH] NX protection for kernel data : fix 32 bits S3 suspend Matthias Hopf
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     [not found]       ` <gifGW-7eL-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-02-06 10:30         ` Bodo Eggert
2011-02-06 23:32           ` H. Peter Anvin

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