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From: Denys Dmytriyenko <denis@denix.org>
To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: Eliminating dependency race-conditions (was Re: [PATCH]	net-snmp: disable libnl use)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:03:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110315220301.GC3042@denix.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1300180117.2522.14.camel@eha>

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:08:37AM +0100, Esben Haabendal wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 12:04 +0100, Steffen Sledz wrote:
> > which occurred sometimes depending on build order (not in clean
> > package only builds).
> 
> I would like to raise awareness of the underlying problem here.
> 
> The current dependency/staging model of OE basically has this feature
> that a build can be influenced not only by it's own dependencies, but
> also what has been build before it (or not).
> 
> I strongly believe that this has to be fixed on the architectural level,
> and not just on a case-by-case level as is currently needed.
> 
> I haven't received much feedback on the preivous posting about the
> per-recipe staging principle implemented in OE-lite, but I decided to
> take this opportunity to re-iterate the fact that the OE-lite
> implementation of staging and build dependencies eliminates this
> problem.
> 
> I am still very much interested in discussing how to move this
> technology from OE-lite to OE, but as it impacts all recipe metadata
> (build dependencies has to be redefined), OE community at a large really
> needs to value the benefits of solving this problem.

Esben,

Thanks for raising this issue and making people aware of it!

This has previously been discussed several times, including last time during 
the Yocto Summit in December, where I brought up the question of per-package 
staging/dependency to Richard's attention, when he introduced the new Shared 
State (sstate). While per-package dependency wasn't considered a critical 
must-have feature right away, it was acknowledged as something worthwhile 
looking at and, according to Richard, should be easy to accomplish with the 
new sstate functionality...

-- 
Denys



  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-15 22:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-11 11:04 [PATCH] net-snmp: disable libnl use Steffen Sledz
2011-03-11 13:05 ` Koen Kooi
2011-03-11 15:53   ` Steffen Sledz
2011-03-12  0:05     ` Khem Raj
2011-03-14  7:06       ` Steffen Sledz
2011-03-14 16:39         ` Khem Raj
2011-03-15  9:08 ` Eliminating dependency race-conditions (was Re: [PATCH] net-snmp: disable libnl use) Esben Haabendal
2011-03-15 22:03   ` Denys Dmytriyenko [this message]
2011-03-16  5:47     ` Eliminating dependency race-conditions Esben Haabendal
2011-03-16  6:22       ` Python-native dependency in libxml2 Ahsan, Noor
2011-03-16  7:08         ` Khem Raj
2011-03-16  7:28           ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2011-03-16  7:43             ` Khem Raj
2011-03-16  8:00               ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2011-03-16  8:05             ` Martin Jansa
2011-03-16  8:38               ` Ahsan, Noor
2011-03-17 10:40                 ` Ahsan, Noor
2011-03-18  7:41                   ` Ahsan, Noor
2011-03-18  8:38                     ` Martin Jansa
2011-03-18  9:47                       ` Koen Kooi
2011-03-18  9:01                     ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2011-03-16  6:35       ` Eliminating dependency race-conditions Frans Meulenbroeks
2011-03-15 23:15   ` Eliminating dependency race-conditions (was Re: [PATCH] net-snmp: disable libnl use) Graham Gower
2011-03-17 11:18   ` Phil Blundell
2011-03-17 14:43     ` Esben Haabendal
2011-03-17 14:52       ` Graeme Gregory
2011-03-17 15:24         ` Koen Kooi
2011-03-17 15:07       ` Phil Blundell
2011-03-17 17:52         ` Esben Haabendal
2011-03-17 18:05           ` Phil Blundell
2011-03-17 19:58             ` Esben Haabendal
2011-03-17 21:00               ` Phil Blundell
2011-03-18  5:29                 ` Esben Haabendal
2011-03-18 10:26                   ` Phil Blundell
2011-03-18 12:14                     ` Eliminating dependency race-conditions Esben Haabendal
2011-03-19  0:32                       ` Richard Purdie
2011-03-22  9:01                         ` Esben Haabendal
2011-03-23 20:31                           ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2011-03-19  0:18               ` Eliminating dependency race-conditions (was Re: [PATCH] net-snmp: disable libnl use) Richard Purdie
2011-03-22  9:00                 ` Eliminating dependency race-conditions Esben Haabendal

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