From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] vmscan: remove all_unreclaimable check from direct reclaim path completely
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:24:23 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110323082423.GA1969@barrios-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110323161354.1AD2.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 04:13:21PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > Okay. I got it.
> >
> > The problem is following as.
> > By the race the free_pcppages_bulk and balance_pgdat, it is possible
> > zone->all_unreclaimable = 1 and zone->pages_scanned = 0.
> > DMA zone have few LRU pages and in case of no-swap and big memory
> > pressure, there could be a just a page in inactive file list like your
> > example. (anon lru pages isn't important in case of non-swap system)
> > In such case, shrink_zones doesn't scan the page at all until priority
> > become 0 as get_scan_count does scan >>= priority(it's mostly zero).
>
> Nope.
>
> if (zone->all_unreclaimable && priority != DEF_PRIORITY)
> continue;
>
> This tow lines mean, all_unreclaimable prevent priority 0 reclaim.
>
Yes. I missed it. Thanks.
>
> > And although priority become 0, nr_scan_try_batch returns zero until
> > saved pages become 32. So for scanning the page, at least, we need 32
> > times iteration of priority 12..0. If system has fork-bomb, it is
> > almost livelock.
>
> Therefore, 1000 times get_scan_count(DEF_PRIORITY) takes 1000 times no-op.
>
> >
> > If is is right, how about this?
>
> Boo.
> You seems forgot why you introduced current all_unreclaimable() function.
> While hibernation, we can't trust all_unreclaimable.
Hmm. AFAIR, the why we add all_unreclaimable is when the hibernation is going on,
kswapd is freezed so it can't mark the zone->all_unreclaimable.
So I think hibernation can't be a problem.
Am I miss something?
--
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim
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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] vmscan: remove all_unreclaimable check from direct reclaim path completely
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:24:23 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110323082423.GA1969@barrios-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110323161354.1AD2.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 04:13:21PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > Okay. I got it.
> >
> > The problem is following as.
> > By the race the free_pcppages_bulk and balance_pgdat, it is possible
> > zone->all_unreclaimable = 1 and zone->pages_scanned = 0.
> > DMA zone have few LRU pages and in case of no-swap and big memory
> > pressure, there could be a just a page in inactive file list like your
> > example. (anon lru pages isn't important in case of non-swap system)
> > In such case, shrink_zones doesn't scan the page at all until priority
> > become 0 as get_scan_count does scan >>= priority(it's mostly zero).
>
> Nope.
>
> if (zone->all_unreclaimable && priority != DEF_PRIORITY)
> continue;
>
> This tow lines mean, all_unreclaimable prevent priority 0 reclaim.
>
Yes. I missed it. Thanks.
>
> > And although priority become 0, nr_scan_try_batch returns zero until
> > saved pages become 32. So for scanning the page, at least, we need 32
> > times iteration of priority 12..0. If system has fork-bomb, it is
> > almost livelock.
>
> Therefore, 1000 times get_scan_count(DEF_PRIORITY) takes 1000 times no-op.
>
> >
> > If is is right, how about this?
>
> Boo.
> You seems forgot why you introduced current all_unreclaimable() function.
> While hibernation, we can't trust all_unreclaimable.
Hmm. AFAIR, the why we add all_unreclaimable is when the hibernation is going on,
kswapd is freezed so it can't mark the zone->all_unreclaimable.
So I think hibernation can't be a problem.
Am I miss something?
--
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-23 8:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-15 1:49 Linux 2.6.38 Linus Torvalds
2011-03-15 3:13 ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15 4:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-15 4:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-15 4:29 ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15 4:33 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-15 4:50 ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15 6:21 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-16 9:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:04 ` [patch 0/5] oom: a few anti fork bomb patches KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:05 ` [PATCH 1/5] vmscan: remove all_unreclaimable check from direct reclaim path completely KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 14:49 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 14:49 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 5:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 5:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 6:59 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 6:59 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 7:13 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 7:13 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 8:24 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2011-03-23 8:24 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 8:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 8:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 9:02 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 9:02 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 2:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 2:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 2:21 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24 2:21 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24 2:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 2:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 3:04 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24 3:04 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24 5:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 5:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 4:19 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 4:19 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 5:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 5:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 5:53 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 5:53 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 6:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 6:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 6:32 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 6:32 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:03 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 7:03 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 7:25 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:25 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:28 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 7:28 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 7:34 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:34 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:41 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:41 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:43 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 7:43 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 7:43 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:43 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 7:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 7:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 7:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 7:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:06 ` [PATCH 2/5] Revert "oom: give the dying task a higher priority" KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 7:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 13:40 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-23 13:40 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-24 0:06 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 0:06 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 15:27 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 15:27 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 9:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 9:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 12:28 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:28 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 9:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 9:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:21 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:21 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:40 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:40 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 13:10 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-28 13:10 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-28 13:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 13:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 13:56 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-28 13:56 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-29 2:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-29 2:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 13:48 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 13:48 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 3/5] oom: create oom autogroup KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 23:21 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 23:21 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 1:27 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 1:27 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 2:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-03-23 2:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-03-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: introduce wait_on_page_locked_killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 7:44 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 7:44 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-24 15:04 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 15:04 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 11:09 ` [PATCH 5/5] x86,mm: make pagefault killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 7:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 7:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 8:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 8:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 14:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-23 14:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-24 15:10 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 15:10 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 17:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-24 17:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-24 17:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-24 17:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-28 7:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 7:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-15 21:08 ` Linux 2.6.38 Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-15 23:32 ` unnecessary oom killer panics in 2.6.38 (was Re: Linux 2.6.38) David Rientjes
2011-03-15 3:14 ` Linux 2.6.38 Steven Rostedt
2011-03-15 4:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-16 17:30 ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 (was: Re: Linux 2.6.38) Melchior FRANZ
2011-03-16 19:22 ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 Jiri Slaby
2011-03-16 19:22 ` Jiri Slaby
2011-03-16 19:43 ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 (was: Re: Linux 2.6.38) Chris Wilson
2011-03-16 21:09 ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 Melchior FRANZ
2011-03-20 18:30 ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 (was: Re: Linux 2.6.38) Maciej Rutecki
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