From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: "Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lclaudio@uudg.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] Revert "oom: give the dying task a higher priority"
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:48:04 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110328134804.GE1892@barrios-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110328131029.GN19007@uudg.org>
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:10:29AM -0300, Luis Claudio R. Goncalves wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 09:40:25PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> | On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 02:28:27PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> | > On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 21:21 +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> | > > Hi Peter,
> | > >
> | > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:51:36AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> | > > > On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 00:27 +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> | > > > >
> | > > > > At that time, I thought that routine is meaningless in non-RT scheduler.
> | > > > > So I Cced Peter but don't get the answer.
> | > > > > I just want to confirm it.
> | > > >
> | > > > Probably lost somewhere in the mess that is my inbox :/, what is the
> | > > > full question?
> | > >
> | > > The question is we had a routine which change rt.time_slice with HZ to
> | > > accelarate task exit. But when we applied 93b43fa5508, we found it isn't effective
> | > > any more about normal task. So we removed it. Is it right?
> | >
> | > rt.time_slice is only relevant to SCHED_RR, since you seem to use
> | > SCHED_FIFO (which runs for as long as the task is runnable), its
> | > completely irrelevant.
> | >
> | > > And Kosaki is about to revert 93b43fa5508 to find out the problem of this thread
> | > > and Luis said he has a another solution to replace 93b43fa5508.
> | > > If rt.time_slice handleing is effective, we should restore it until Luis's patch
> | > > will be merged.
> | >
> | > Right, so only SCHED_RR is affected by time_slice, it will be
> | > decremented on tick (so anything that avoids ticks will also avoid the
> | > decrement) and once it reaches 0 the task will be queued at the tail of
> | > its static priority and reset the slice. If there is no other task on
> | > that same priority we'll again schedule that task.
> | >
> | > In short, don't use SCHED_RR and don't worry about time_slice.
> |
> | There was meaningless code in there. I guess it was in there from CFS.
> | Thanks for the explanation, Peter.
>
> Yes, it was CFS related:
I think it wasn't related CFS but O(1).
I guess as we changed O(1) with CFS, the fault was remained.
--
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim
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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: "Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lclaudio@uudg.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] Revert "oom: give the dying task a higher priority"
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:48:04 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110328134804.GE1892@barrios-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110328131029.GN19007@uudg.org>
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:10:29AM -0300, Luis Claudio R. Goncalves wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 09:40:25PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> | On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 02:28:27PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> | > On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 21:21 +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> | > > Hi Peter,
> | > >
> | > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:51:36AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> | > > > On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 00:27 +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> | > > > >
> | > > > > At that time, I thought that routine is meaningless in non-RT scheduler.
> | > > > > So I Cced Peter but don't get the answer.
> | > > > > I just want to confirm it.
> | > > >
> | > > > Probably lost somewhere in the mess that is my inbox :/, what is the
> | > > > full question?
> | > >
> | > > The question is we had a routine which change rt.time_slice with HZ to
> | > > accelarate task exit. But when we applied 93b43fa5508, we found it isn't effective
> | > > any more about normal task. So we removed it. Is it right?
> | >
> | > rt.time_slice is only relevant to SCHED_RR, since you seem to use
> | > SCHED_FIFO (which runs for as long as the task is runnable), its
> | > completely irrelevant.
> | >
> | > > And Kosaki is about to revert 93b43fa5508 to find out the problem of this thread
> | > > and Luis said he has a another solution to replace 93b43fa5508.
> | > > If rt.time_slice handleing is effective, we should restore it until Luis's patch
> | > > will be merged.
> | >
> | > Right, so only SCHED_RR is affected by time_slice, it will be
> | > decremented on tick (so anything that avoids ticks will also avoid the
> | > decrement) and once it reaches 0 the task will be queued at the tail of
> | > its static priority and reset the slice. If there is no other task on
> | > that same priority we'll again schedule that task.
> | >
> | > In short, don't use SCHED_RR and don't worry about time_slice.
> |
> | There was meaningless code in there. I guess it was in there from CFS.
> | Thanks for the explanation, Peter.
>
> Yes, it was CFS related:
I think it wasn't related CFS but O(1).
I guess as we changed O(1) with CFS, the fault was remained.
--
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim
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Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-15 1:49 Linux 2.6.38 Linus Torvalds
2011-03-15 3:13 ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15 4:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-15 4:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-15 4:29 ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15 4:33 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-15 4:50 ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15 6:21 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-16 9:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:04 ` [patch 0/5] oom: a few anti fork bomb patches KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:05 ` [PATCH 1/5] vmscan: remove all_unreclaimable check from direct reclaim path completely KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 14:49 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 14:49 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 5:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 5:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 6:59 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 6:59 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 7:13 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 7:13 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 8:24 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 8:24 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 8:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 8:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 9:02 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 9:02 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 2:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 2:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 2:21 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24 2:21 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24 2:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 2:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 3:04 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24 3:04 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24 5:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 5:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 4:19 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 4:19 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 5:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 5:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 5:53 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 5:53 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 6:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 6:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 6:32 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 6:32 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:03 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 7:03 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 7:25 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:25 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:28 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 7:28 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 7:34 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:34 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:41 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:41 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:43 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 7:43 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 7:43 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:43 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 7:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 7:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 7:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 7:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:06 ` [PATCH 2/5] Revert "oom: give the dying task a higher priority" KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 7:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 13:40 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-23 13:40 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-24 0:06 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 0:06 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 15:27 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 15:27 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 9:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 9:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 12:28 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:28 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 9:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 9:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:21 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:21 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:40 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:40 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 13:10 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-28 13:10 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-28 13:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 13:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 13:56 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-28 13:56 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-29 2:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-29 2:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 13:48 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2011-03-28 13:48 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 3/5] oom: create oom autogroup KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 23:21 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 23:21 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 1:27 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 1:27 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 2:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-03-23 2:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-03-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: introduce wait_on_page_locked_killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 7:44 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 7:44 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-24 15:04 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 15:04 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 11:09 ` [PATCH 5/5] x86,mm: make pagefault killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 7:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 7:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 8:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 8:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 14:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-23 14:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-24 15:10 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 15:10 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 17:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-24 17:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-24 17:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-24 17:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-28 7:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 7:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-15 21:08 ` Linux 2.6.38 Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-15 23:32 ` unnecessary oom killer panics in 2.6.38 (was Re: Linux 2.6.38) David Rientjes
2011-03-15 3:14 ` Linux 2.6.38 Steven Rostedt
2011-03-15 4:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-16 17:30 ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 (was: Re: Linux 2.6.38) Melchior FRANZ
2011-03-16 19:22 ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 Jiri Slaby
2011-03-16 19:22 ` Jiri Slaby
2011-03-16 19:43 ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 (was: Re: Linux 2.6.38) Chris Wilson
2011-03-16 21:09 ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 Melchior FRANZ
2011-03-20 18:30 ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 (was: Re: Linux 2.6.38) Maciej Rutecki
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