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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Andrei Warkentin <andreiw@motorola.com>
Cc: linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4] MMC: MMC boot partitions support.
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:38:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201104011238.02551.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik-TJxfUJdOUJUjFy1ej8tjKNKfRft6QiA4JWx3@mail.gmail.com>

On Thursday 31 March 2011, Andrei Warkentin wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> >
> > My feeling is that these should be separate from the boot partition.
> > It could probably be done using a new fs/partitions/mmc.c file
> > that directly interacts with the mmc layer instead of looking
> > at the MS-DOS master boot record. That way, you could define the
> > same partitions (mmcblk0p1, ...) using a different method.
>
> Nope. The device partitions are one time programmable (partition
> once), so you definitely don't want to expose them as regular
> partitions. The point
> behind the GP partitions is that they can be implemented with enhanced
> features (such as better reliability), and so like the enhanced area,
> are meant as a complement, not a replacement for file system
> partitions.
> 
> I don't think there is a need to over complicate this. It's just going
> to get more confusing and involve more changes. The device
> partitioning support is pretty orthogonal right now.

Even if they are write-once, wouldn't we still need to provide an
interface to write them once?

The question if GP should be used together or instead of MS-DOS
partitions depends on the possible use cases. If you don't want
to partition a GP any further in software, exposing them directly
as mmcblk0pX would be a very nice and simple interface, but
it completely prevents you from creating subpartitions.

The other alternative is to allow each GP to contain a partition
table, but then you need a either a three-level naming (mmcblk0gp1p2)
or make each GP a device by itself (mmcblk0, mmcblk1) that can in
turn be partitioned.

> > Regarding the naming, I would not use a trailing zero, but it's probably
> > a subjective thing. The other names I could imagine for the boot partition
> > of mmc 0 are mmcboot0, mmcblk0b or mmcblk0boot.
> >
> 
> Since we have two boot partitions and 4 GP ones, for mmcblk0 I'd stick
> with something like
> mmcblk0boot0, mmcblk0boot1, mmcblk0gp0-mmcblk0gp4. I'd want to keep
> the first mmcblk0, so that
> a user can easily associate the actual card the device partitions are for.

I would find it rather confusing if the device can be partitioned in
software but the GP devices could not be.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-01 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-19 11:18 MMC/eMMC partitioning support Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-19 11:18 ` [RFC] MMC: MMC boot partitions support Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-19 12:13   ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-21 14:19   ` [PATCH] " Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-22  3:54   ` [PATCHv3] " Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-22 21:11   ` MMC partitions support (4th revision) Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-22 21:11   ` [PATCHv4] MMC: MMC boot partitions support Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-29 22:45     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-30 12:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-30 20:07         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-30 22:43           ` Chris Ball
2011-03-30 22:46             ` Chris Ball
2011-03-30 23:18               ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-30 23:34                 ` Chris Ball
2011-03-31  6:57                   ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-31 11:01                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-31 19:17                       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-31 19:37                         ` Chris Ball
2011-03-31 20:01                           ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-31 20:03                           ` Chris Ball
2011-03-31 20:01                             ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-01  9:23                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 14:52                                 ` Chris Ball
2011-04-01  9:21                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-31 11:17           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-31 19:29             ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-01 10:38               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2011-04-01 18:42                 ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-01 19:25                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 19:42                     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-04 12:22                       ` [PATCH] " Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-04 11:52                         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-11 21:13                           ` [patchv3 1/4] MMC: Rename erase_timeout to cmd_timeout_ms Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-11 21:13                           ` [patchv3 2/4] MMC: SDHCI R1B command handling + MMC_CAP_ERASE Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-12  9:06                             ` Dong, Chuanxiao
2011-04-12 18:05                               ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-13  1:59                                 ` Dong, Chuanxiao
2011-04-13  5:44                                   ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-15 21:34                                     ` Cyril Hrubis
2011-08-10 13:30                             ` Chris Ball
2011-04-11 21:13                           ` [patchv3 3/4] MMC: Allow setting CMD timeout for CMD6 (SWITCH) Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-11 21:13                           ` [patchv3 4/4] MMC: MMC boot partitions support Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-11 22:00                             ` Chris Ball
2011-04-11 22:10                               ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-11 22:22                                 ` Chris Ball
2011-04-11 22:18                                   ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-11 23:10                                     ` [patchv4 1/2] MMC: block.c cleanup for host claim/release Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-11 23:10                                     ` [patchv4 2/2] MMC: MMC boot partitions support Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-11 23:20                                     ` [patchv3 4/4] " Chris Ball
2011-04-11 23:24                                       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-21  1:13                             ` Chris Ball
2011-04-21  1:30                               ` Chris Ball
2011-04-21  5:09                                 ` Philip Rakity
2011-04-21  5:22                                   ` Chris Ball
2011-04-21  5:31                                     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-21  6:07                                       ` [RFC] MMC: Block: Ensure hardware partitions don't mess with mmcblk device naming Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-21  8:17                                         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-21 14:44                                           ` Chris Ball
2011-04-22  0:20                                         ` Chris Ball
2011-04-22  3:46                                           ` [PATCH] " Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-22  3:50                                             ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-22 22:34                                             ` Chris Ball
2011-04-21  4:31                               ` [patchv3 4/4] MMC: MMC boot partitions support Jaehoon Chung

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