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From: "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.39-rc3
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 07:42:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110419114255.GB3030@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110418230254.GA22588@redhat.com>

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 07:02:55PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
>  > Your code looks like you copy the bytes to the in-kernel superblock
>  > structure without noticing any later changes on disk? How is that
>  > supposed to work?
> 
> I thought tune2fs on a mounted filesystem was always a
> "you get to keep both pieces if it breaks" situation.

It's actually something that we've supported for a long time, and we
go to some lengths to make it be safe.  Ext[234] always directly
checks things that could be safely changed by tune2fs directly in the
buffer cache where the superblock is stored, and tune2fs checks to see
if the file system is mounted, and (a) will refuse to make certain
changes that are unsafe, and (b) make the changes to the buffer cache
by seeking to the right place in the superblock and only writing the
1/2/4 bytes which are needed to make the change.

So it is something that we've advertised will work, although some
changes only take effect when the file system is mounted and
remounted, even if you are allowed to make the change while the file
system is mounted.  The best known example of this is being able to
on-line convert a mounted root file system to add a journal.  You can
do that while it is mounted, but you have to reboot and/or
mount/remount the file system in order for the journal to start
getting used.

						- Ted

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-19 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-12  0:40 Linux 2.6.39-rc3 Linus Torvalds
2011-04-12  9:02 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-12 14:15   ` Alex Deucher
2011-04-12 18:44     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-13  1:27       ` David Rientjes
2011-04-13  6:46       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-13 17:21         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-13 18:39           ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-13 19:26             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-13 18:51           ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-13 19:24             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-13 19:14           ` Yinghai Lu
2011-04-13 19:34             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-13 20:48               ` Yinghai Lu
2011-04-13 20:54                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-13 21:23                   ` Yinghai Lu
2011-04-13 23:39                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-14  0:10                       ` Yinghai Lu
2011-04-14  2:03                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-14  2:27                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-14  2:27                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-14  2:33                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-14  2:33                             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-14  4:03                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-14  9:36                               ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-14  8:09                             ` Alan Cox
2011-04-14  8:09                               ` Alan Cox
2011-04-15 13:11                             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-15 13:16                               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-15 14:33                                 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-15 16:11                                   ` Alex Deucher
2011-04-15 15:46                                 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-15 16:11                                   ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-16 16:35                                     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-16 16:35                                       ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-16 18:54                                       ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-16 18:54                                         ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-17 14:09                                         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-18  1:12                                           ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-18 15:23                                           ` Alex Deucher
2011-04-18 15:23                                             ` Alex Deucher
2011-04-18 15:29                                             ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-18 15:33                                               ` Alex Deucher
2011-04-18 15:59                                                 ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-18 16:35                                                   ` Alex Deucher
2011-04-15 14:04                               ` Andreas Herrmann
2011-04-15 14:28                                 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-15 14:16                               ` Alexandre Demers
2011-04-15 14:27                                 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-15 14:27                                   ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-15 18:59                                   ` Alexandre Demers
2011-04-15 19:06                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-15 19:18                                       ` Yinghai Lu
2011-04-15 20:22                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-16 12:01                                         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-16 12:01                                           ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-16 12:00                                       ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-16 12:21                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-16 12:21                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-16  0:03                               ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86, amd: Disable GartTlbWlkErr when BIOS forgets it tip-bot for Joerg Roedel
2011-05-06 21:17                           ` Linux 2.6.39-rc3 Linus Torvalds
2011-04-13 21:50                 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-13 21:59                   ` Yinghai Lu
2011-04-13 22:11                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-13 22:01                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-13 22:22                     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-13 22:31                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-14  8:59                         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-13 19:48             ` Alex Deucher
2011-04-14  1:58             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-14  1:58               ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-14  2:07               ` Dave Airlie
2011-04-14  6:10                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-14  8:56               ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-14  9:07                 ` Dave Airlie
2011-04-14  9:11                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-14 14:31                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-14 14:28                 ` Alex Deucher
2011-04-14 21:09                   ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-14 21:34                     ` Alex Deucher
2011-04-15  6:50                       ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-15 14:49                       ` Andreas Herrmann
2011-04-15  8:26                     ` Michel Dänzer
2011-04-15  8:26                       ` Michel Dänzer
2011-04-15  8:55                       ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-12 19:09 ` Dave Jones
2011-04-12 19:21   ` Dave Jones
2011-04-12 19:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-12 20:13       ` Dave Jones
2011-04-14  8:20     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-04-18 22:57       ` Kay Sievers
2011-04-18 23:02         ` Dave Jones
2011-04-18 23:14           ` Kay Sievers
2011-04-19 11:42           ` Ted Ts'o [this message]
2011-04-19  8:23         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-04-19  8:37           ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-04-19  9:55           ` Kay Sievers
2011-04-12 20:20   ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-12 20:27     ` Karel Zak
2011-04-12 20:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-14 20:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-04-14 20:55   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-15  4:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-20 20:12       ` Borislav Petkov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-04-12 21:21 Alexandre Demers
2011-04-13  4:32 George Spelvin
2011-04-13 14:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-14 18:28   ` Pavel Machek

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