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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Vince Weaver <vweaver1@eecs.utk.edu>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@gmail.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: re-enable Nehalem raw Offcore-Events support
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 20:31:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110501183120.GA29964@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1104301641060.7288@cl320.eecs.utk.edu>


* Vince Weaver <vweaver1@eecs.utk.edu> wrote:

> I spend a lot of time dealing with developers who use perf-counter related 
> interfaces all the time.  They complain to me *constantly* about the 
> drawbacks of perf_events, because PAPI is one step up from the kernel.
> 
> I try to get them to interact with the kernel people, but they won't.  Do you 
> know why?  Because they feel like the perf_events developers are rude at 
> best, unhelpful in general, and actively anti-anyone-not-using-perf.

Arnaldo, the maintainer of perf tooling (and with whom most users complaining 
about perf would be interacting) is one of the most responsive maintainers and 
developers i've ever seen. I have not seen him brush off a single user 
bugreport or complaint, ever - let alone be 'unhelpful' or be anti-anyone. 
Ditto for Peter.

They didnt even brush *you* off, ever.

Let me guess, you just made that argument up, right?

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-01 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-29 15:04 re-enable Nehalem raw Offcore-Events support Vince Weaver
2011-04-29 15:27 ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-29 16:49   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-29 16:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-29 18:01   ` Vince Weaver
2011-04-29 18:57     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-30  2:17       ` Vince Weaver
2011-04-30  7:14         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-30 20:47           ` Vince Weaver
2011-05-01 18:31             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-04-30  8:11         ` Borislav Petkov
2011-04-30 21:03           ` Vince Weaver
2011-05-09 11:01       ` stephane eranian
2011-05-10  9:35         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-29 22:16   ` Borislav Petkov
2011-04-30  1:49     ` Vince Weaver
2011-04-30  1:53   ` Vince Weaver
2011-04-30 20:58     ` Vince Weaver
2011-04-30 21:09       ` Alan Cox
2011-04-29 17:17 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-29 17:25   ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-29 17:37     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-29 17:46       ` Vince Weaver
2011-04-29 17:59         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-29 17:42     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-30 20:06       ` Corey Ashford
2011-05-01  4:45         ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-01 18:00           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-01 17:55         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-02 18:32           ` Corey Ashford

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