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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Asias He <asias.hejun@gmail.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	Prasad Joshi <prasadjoshi124@gmail.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] kvm tools: Respect ISR status in virtio header
Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 16:55:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110507145521.GG2859@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1304779960.10621.16.camel@jaguar>


* Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 2011-05-07 at 16:47 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > Can you anything in the virtio protocol implementation that would explain 
> > networking lags, which seem to be caused by guest notifications either not be 
> > sent or being missed?
> > 
> > In particular this sequence:
> > 
> > > while pending_requests:
> > >    a = get_next_request();
> > >    process_next_request(a);
> > 
> > is apparently not what Qemu uses - so maybe there's some latent bug or some 
> > silly oversight somewhere.
> > 
> > It is suboptimal and i agree with you that the better sequence should be 
> > implemented, but the above *should* work, yet it does not.
> 
> Yes, so the performance benefits of Asias' patch aren't the interesting
> part but the fact that it fixes a real bug in our tool.

It could be the same like the mutex_lock() change: that too seemed to 'fix' the 
latency bug but we still do not understand the root cause of the 'stuck 
ring-buffer' situation.

I.e. some sort of timing related condition which goes away spuriously when 
unrelated but timing-relevant changes are done to the code.

And we'll continue to see these problems on and off, in probably all virtio 
drivers. virtio-console might be suffering from it, virtio-blk, etc. etc.

I'd suggest freezing changes to this driver until this bug is analyzed 
correctly...

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-07 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-07  2:34 [PATCH 1/2] kvm tools: Respect ISR status in virtio header Asias He
2011-05-07  2:34 ` [PATCH 2/2] kvm tools: Respect VRING_AVAIL_F_NO_INTERRUPT Asias He
2011-05-07  7:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-07  9:03     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-07 11:25       ` Asias He
2011-05-07  9:30 ` [PATCH 1/2] kvm tools: Respect ISR status in virtio header Ingo Molnar
2011-05-07 10:34   ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-07 10:39     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-07 10:39     ` Asias He
2011-05-07 11:15   ` Asias He
2011-05-07 14:00     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-07 14:24       ` Asias He
2011-05-07 13:14   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-07 14:02     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-07 14:21       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-07 14:47         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-07 14:52           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-07 14:55             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-05-07 14:50     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-07 15:01       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-07 15:02         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-07 15:06           ` Ingo Molnar

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