From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Zhu Yanhai <zhu.yanhai@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: fix typo in the soft_limit stats.
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:05:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110526090538.GA19082@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110516171820.124a8fbc.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 05:18:20PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:05:02 -0700
> Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 03:00:30PM -0700, Ying Han wrote:
> > > > This fixes the typo in the memory.stat including the following two
> > > > stats:
> > > >
> > > > $ cat /dev/cgroup/memory/A/memory.stat
> > > > total_soft_steal 0
> > > > total_soft_scan 0
> > > >
> > > > And change it to:
> > > >
> > > > $ cat /dev/cgroup/memory/A/memory.stat
> > > > total_soft_kswapd_steal 0
> > > > total_soft_kswapd_scan 0
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
> > >
> > > I am currently proposing and working on a scheme that makes the soft
> > > limit not only a factor for global memory pressure, but for
> > > hierarchical reclaim in general, to prefer child memcgs during reclaim
> > > that are in excess of their soft limit.
> > >
> > > Because this means prioritizing memcgs over one another, rather than
> > > having explicit soft limit reclaim runs, there is no natural counter
> > > for pages reclaimed due to the soft limit anymore.
> > >
> > > Thus, for the patch that introduces this counter:
> > >
> > > Nacked-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> > >
> >
> > This patch is fixing a typo of the stats being integrated into mmotm. Does
> > it make sense to fix the
> > existing stats first while we are discussing other approaches?
> >
>
> It would be quite bad to add new userspace-visible stats and to then
> take them away again.
>
> But given that memcg-add-stats-to-monitor-soft_limit-reclaim.patch is
> queued for 2.6.39-rc1, we could proceed with that plan and then make
> sure that Johannes's changes are merged either prior to 2.6.40 or
> they are never merged at all.
I am on it, but I don't think I can get them into shape and
rudimentally benchmarked until the merge window is closed.
So far I found nothing that would invalidate the design or have
measurable impact on non-memcg systems. Then again, I suck at
constructing tests, and have only limited machinery available.
If people are interested and would like to help out verifying the
changes, I can send an updated and documented version of the series
that should be easier to understand.
> Or we could just leave out the stats until we're sure. Not having them
> for a while is not as bad as adding them and then removing them.
I am a bit unsure as to why there is a sudden rush with those
statistics now.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-26 9:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-16 22:00 [PATCH] memcg: fix typo in the soft_limit stats Ying Han
2011-05-16 23:15 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-17 0:05 ` Ying Han
2011-05-17 0:13 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-17 0:18 ` Rik van Riel
2011-05-17 0:18 ` Andrew Morton
2011-05-17 23:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-18 0:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-18 0:56 ` Ying Han
2011-05-26 9:05 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2011-05-26 16:56 ` Ying Han
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