From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: dann frazier Subject: Re: debian hppa Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 10:37:44 -0600 Message-ID: <20110527163744.GE21744@dannf.org> References: <20110525234205.GB2556@dannf.org> <20110526012304.GB1912@hiauly1.hia.nrc.ca> <20110526144610.GC2556@dannf.org> <20110526152900.GA5200@hiauly1.hia.nrc.ca> <20110526160951.GA19134@dannf.org> <20110527145656.GB21744@dannf.org> <20110527162453.GA10333@hiauly1.hia.nrc.ca> <1306513755.3264.7.camel@mulgrave.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: John David Anglin , Carlos O'Donell , linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org To: James Bottomley Return-path: In-Reply-To: <1306513755.3264.7.camel@mulgrave.site> List-ID: List-Id: linux-parisc.vger.kernel.org On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:29:15AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 12:24 -0400, John David Anglin wrote: > > On Fri, 27 May 2011, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > > > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:56 AM, dann frazier wrote: > > > > Probably. debian-ports is the only other option I know of - but it > > > > means we need people to step up and do random bits of release work > > > > (keeping a working installer, etc). I also think we'd need to have > > > > some notion of a "stable" release - I don't think an unstable-only > > > > release is very useful outside of a developer's basement, and not > > > > something I'd want to host our infrastructure systems on. > > I also don't think an unstable only release is viable. Can't we just > run a private buildd on stable, testing and unstable? debian-ports has offered to provide this infrastructure for us - but they currently only build sid. We'd need some extra manpower to help them work on the processes to maintain other suites. > > > > Since I don't see that happening, yes, Gentoo. > > > > > > > > > > We need like 3-4 more people on the project to properly support > > > debian-ports for hppa. I don't think that type of support is going to > > > materialize any time soon. > > > > It's unclear whether any volunteer support for hppa remains within > > "debian". I added the parisc-linux list to the cc list to make people > > aware of the situation. > > > > Aside from the issue about releases, the buildd process is stuck > > due to unresolved dependencies. Maybe it should be shutdown to > > preserve state. > > > > > Therefore I think Gentoo is probably the best option for the community. > > > > > > I don't care how we achieve a sustainable distribution for hppa, only > > > that we continue to provide value to our user community. > > > > There is some hppa work still being done in Gentoo, so I tend to agree > > but I have no direct experience with it. > > Sure ... I've no objection to moving from debian to gentoo if that means > we get a working distribution. It's a bit of a hassle, since I have to > move all my x86 boxes as well (don't ask, complex infrastructure with a > parisc as gateway mirror in the middle), but I suppose it's pain only > once. > > James > >