From: Florian Mickler <florian@mickler.org>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Keith Curtis <keithcu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Zero bugs (was Re: (Short?) merge window reminder)
Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 00:03:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110529000325.07f5633a@schatten.dmk.lab> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4265.1306506572@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
On Fri, 27 May 2011 10:29:32 -0400
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Thu, 26 May 2011 22:44:24 PDT, Keith Curtis said:
>
> > However, it is common in companies to make an effort to get towards
> > zero bugs. Zero bugs is impossible, and that is a philosophical
> > discussion. If you look through your current list of bugs, nearly
> > every one looks scary to me and important to someone. You currently
> > have 2,800 active bugs (http://bit.ly/LinuxBugs) The last time I
> > looked, I found the median age was 10 months. In general, bugs should
> > be fixed in the next release and so therefore 3 months.
>
Besides the valid points Valdis gave, also many of the bugs (if they
are severe/real world bugs) are already fixed. That is because the
bugzilla is not the only place where bugs are reported and resolved and
only the original submitter and some other people are able to close bugs.
Most of the development happens on the mailinglist. So this
is also where most of the bugs get solved.
( Mailinglists also have the advantage of automatically garbage
collecting old bug reports nobody has any interest in solving. This is
a big drawback with bugzilla. If there is too much garbage in the
bugzilla because nobody closes bugs, then developers will not take old
bugzilla reports seriously. )
So if you want to make the bugzilla more useful, just go for it and put
relevant people on the cc list of ignored bug reports, ping people that have not
answered to a specific question for months (the bugzilla looses
notification mails sometimes).. And if you determine bugs that can be
closed, drop me a line, I will be happy to do that, if it is
appropriate.
Regards,
Flo
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Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-23 19:13 (Short?) merge window reminder Linus Torvalds
2011-05-23 19:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-23 19:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-23 19:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 19:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 20:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-23 20:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-23 20:52 ` Alexey Zaytsev
2011-05-23 20:52 ` Alexey Zaytsev
2011-05-25 14:12 ` Boaz Harrosh
2011-05-25 14:12 ` Boaz Harrosh
2011-05-25 22:21 ` Tony Luck
2011-05-25 22:21 ` Tony Luck
2011-05-26 16:38 ` Boaz Harrosh
2011-05-26 16:38 ` Boaz Harrosh
2011-05-27 5:44 ` Keith Curtis
2011-05-27 14:29 ` Zero bugs (was Re: (Short?) merge window reminder) Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-28 22:03 ` Florian Mickler [this message]
2011-06-01 23:49 ` Keith Curtis
2011-05-23 21:41 ` (Short?) merge window reminder Yuhong Bao
2011-05-23 21:59 ` Oliver Pinter
2011-05-23 21:59 ` Oliver Pinter
2011-05-23 22:21 ` Greg KH
2011-05-23 22:21 ` Greg KH
2011-05-23 23:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-05-23 23:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-05-23 23:10 ` jonsmirl
2011-05-23 23:10 ` jonsmirl
2011-05-23 23:17 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-23 23:17 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-23 23:21 ` Randy Dunlap
2011-05-23 23:21 ` Randy Dunlap
2011-05-23 23:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-05-23 23:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-05-23 23:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-23 23:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-23 23:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-24 2:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 2:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 7:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-24 7:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-24 12:15 ` Jan Engelhardt
2011-05-24 12:30 ` Jacek Luczak
2011-05-24 13:02 ` Jan Engelhardt
2011-05-24 13:18 ` Jacek Luczak
2011-05-24 14:43 ` Alan Cox
2011-05-24 15:07 ` jonsmirl
2011-05-24 17:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-05-24 17:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-05-24 17:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-24 18:48 ` eschvoca
2011-05-24 21:05 ` Jan Engelhardt
2011-05-25 9:12 ` Emil Langrock
2011-05-26 16:13 ` Sérgio Basto
2011-05-26 16:13 ` Sérgio Basto
2011-05-27 9:20 ` Lukasz
2011-05-24 15:46 ` Ralf Baechle
2011-05-24 17:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2011-05-25 1:13 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-25 12:26 ` Kasper Dupont
2011-05-25 20:48 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-23 23:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-05-23 23:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-05-23 23:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-05-24 14:41 ` Alan Cox
2011-05-24 14:41 ` Alan Cox
2011-05-24 14:48 ` Ralf Baechle
2011-05-24 14:48 ` Ralf Baechle
2011-05-24 14:48 ` Ralf Baechle
2011-05-24 14:48 ` Ralf Baechle
2011-05-24 14:48 ` Ralf Baechle
2011-05-23 23:53 ` Phil Turmel
2011-05-23 23:53 ` Phil Turmel
2011-05-24 2:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 2:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 18:06 ` Lisa Milne
2011-05-24 18:06 ` Lisa Milne
2011-05-24 20:59 ` Zimny Lech
2011-05-24 20:59 ` Zimny Lech
2011-05-25 15:03 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2011-05-25 15:03 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2011-05-24 18:34 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2011-05-24 18:34 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2011-05-24 18:55 ` david
2011-05-24 18:55 ` david
2011-05-24 21:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2011-05-24 21:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2011-05-25 12:52 ` Jiri Kosina
2011-05-25 12:52 ` Jiri Kosina
2011-05-24 23:00 ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2011-05-24 23:00 ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2011-05-23 19:22 ` Greg KH
2011-05-23 19:22 ` Greg KH
2011-05-23 20:04 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-23 20:04 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-23 19:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-23 19:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-23 20:21 ` Randy Dunlap
2011-05-23 20:21 ` Randy Dunlap
2011-05-23 21:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-23 21:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-24 19:06 ` Emil Langrock
2011-05-25 4:47 ` porpen
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