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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@suse.cz>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nbd@openwrt.org,
	hramrach@centrum.cz, jordipujolp@gmail.com,
	ezk@fsl.cs.sunysb.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] overlay filesystem: request for inclusion
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:39:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110611023947.GA9824@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EE48B29B-EC3F-44D7-9A39-07F6EA138AC4@cam.ac.uk>

On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 11:58:37PM +0100, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> > NTFS has been doing nicely in userspace for almost half a decade.  It's
> > not as fast as a kernel driver _could_ be, but it's faster than _the_
> > kernel driver.
> 
> Er, sorry to disappoint but the Tuxera NTFS kernel driver is faster
> than any user space NTFS driver could ever be.  It is faster than
> ext3/4, too.  (-:  To give you a random example on an embedded system
> (800MHz, 512MB RAM, 64kiB write buffer size) where NTFS in user space
> achieves a maximum cached write throughput of ~15MiB/s, ext3 achieves
> ~75MiB/s, ext4 ~100MiB/s and Tuxera NTFS kernel driver achieves
> ~190MiB/s blowing ext4 out of the water by almost a factor of 2 and
> the user space code by more than a factor of 10.  File systems in user
> space have their applications but high performance is definitely not
> one of them...  You might say that ext3/4 are journalling so not a
> fair comparison so let me add that FAT32 achieves about 100MiB/s in
> the same hardware/test, still about half of NTFS.

Talk to Tuxera, they have a new version of their userspace FUSE version
that is _much_ faster than their public one, and it might be almost as
fast as their in-kernel version for some streaming loads (where caching
isn't necessary or needed.)

So it can be done, and done well, if you know what you are doing :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-11  2:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-01 12:46 [PATCH 0/7] overlay filesystem: request for inclusion Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-01 12:46 ` [PATCH 1/7] vfs: add i_op->open() Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-01 12:46 ` [PATCH 2/7] vfs: export do_splice_direct() to modules Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-01 12:46 ` [PATCH 3/7] vfs: introduce clone_private_mount() Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-01 12:46 ` [PATCH 4/7] overlay filesystem Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-01 12:46 ` [PATCH 5/7] overlayfs: add statfs support Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-01 12:46 ` [PATCH 6/7] overlayfs: implement show_options Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-01 12:46 ` [PATCH 7/7] overlay: overlay filesystem documentation Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-08 22:32 ` [PATCH 0/7] overlay filesystem: request for inclusion Andrew Morton
2011-06-09  1:59   ` NeilBrown
2011-06-09  3:52     ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-09 12:47       ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-09 19:38         ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-09 19:49           ` Felix Fietkau
2011-06-09 22:02           ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-10  3:48             ` J. R. Okajima
2011-06-10  9:31               ` Francis Moreau
2011-06-16 18:27                 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-06-10 10:19               ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-12  7:44                 ` J. R. Okajima
2011-06-13 18:48               ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-08 14:44                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-08 15:21                   ` Tomas M
2011-07-09 12:22                   ` J. R. Okajima
2011-07-15 12:33                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-15 13:02                       ` J. R. Okajima
2011-07-15 13:04                         ` J. R. Okajima
2011-07-15 13:04                         ` J. R. Okajima
2011-07-15 13:07                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-15 13:33                           ` J. R. Okajima
2011-07-15 15:16                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-09 13:49       ` Andy Whitcroft
2011-06-09 19:32         ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-09 19:40           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-09 20:17             ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-09 22:58               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2011-06-09 22:58                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2011-06-11  2:39                 ` Greg KH [this message]
2011-06-12 20:51                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2011-06-10 11:51           ` Bernd Schubert
2011-06-10 12:45             ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-10 12:54               ` Bernd Schubert
2011-06-09 13:57       ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-09 13:57       ` Andy Whitcroft
2011-07-05 19:54   ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2011-07-08 12:57     ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-10  8:23       ` Ric Wheeler
2011-07-10 13:55         ` Sorin Faibish
2011-07-12 15:59           ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-10 11:16       ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2011-07-12 16:15         ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found] ` <4540f7aa16724111bd792a1d577261c2@HUBCAS1.cs.stonybrook.edu>
2011-06-16  6:51   ` Erez Zadok
2011-06-16  6:51     ` Erez Zadok
2011-06-16  9:45     ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-16  9:45       ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-16 10:45     ` Jordi Pujol
2011-06-16 15:15     ` J. R. Okajima
2011-06-16 16:09       ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-16 22:59         ` J. R. Okajima
2011-07-08 14:40         ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-09 12:18           ` J. R. Okajima
2011-07-15 10:59             ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]     ` <b624059d70d546d4a4ecb940613235ab@HUBCAS2.cs.stonybrook.edu>
     [not found]       ` <BF42D8D9-B947-448A-8818-BCA786E75325@fsl.cs.sunysb.edu>
2011-06-16 23:41         ` J. R. Okajima
     [not found]         ` <ab75a25c918145569b721dea9aea5506@HUBCAS2.cs.stonybrook.edu>
     [not found]           ` <BF19F4F8-9E0F-4983-87C1-BB1B0A11D011@fsl.cs.sunysb.edu>
2011-06-17  1:49             ` J. R. Okajima
     [not found] <20110609125114.8dff08da.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2011-06-10  6:57 ` Fw: " Valerie Aurora
2011-06-10  9:01   ` Alan Cox
2011-06-15 11:19     ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-15 14:32       ` J. R. Okajima
2011-06-15 15:49         ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-15 16:14           ` J. R. Okajima
2011-06-15 17:20             ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-15 17:20               ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-15 18:12               ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-16  2:43               ` J. R. Okajima
2011-06-16 10:35                 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-16 15:15                   ` J. R. Okajima
2011-06-17  7:38                     ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-20  0:43                       ` J. R. Okajima
     [not found]         ` <803fd88dc28748428861b75afdee3575@HUBCAS1.cs.stonybrook.edu>
2011-06-16  0:44           ` Erez Zadok
2011-06-16  3:07             ` J. R. Okajima

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