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From: Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] perf: Attaching an event to a specific PMU
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 11:21:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110707092102.GI4590@erda.amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1309972368.3282.317.camel@twins>

On 06.07.11 13:12:48, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 18:53 +0200, Robert Richter wrote:

> > The system topology is always in /sys, also for device nodes. But we
> > can't get a device file descriptor from /sys. I doubt /sys is capable
> > to handle a device use count (need to be checked). We actually must
> > grab the pmu while attaching events to it. And, user space
> > implementation is must easier with /dev (see code in my previous
> > mail).
> 
> Well you must not per-se, from a user's perspective there isn't much of
> a difference between if the sys_perf_event_open() fails or if the
> initial file open fails, in both cases he's not getting an event.

It is not that I want to create event handles with open. For this
there is the syscall. I use open() to create a unique reference to a
pmu in userspace. No more, and /dev is the right thing to do this.

> perf stat -e IBS:fetches will always have a fail against rmmod, rmmod
> could complete before we try to open the file (assuming IBS is a
> module).
> 
> > 
> > My patch also includes code that creates a device class. It is also
> > visible in /sys/class/pmu/*.
> 
> So not only are you providing a duplicate of existing interfaces, you're
> actually duplicating information inside sysfs as well.

This is not duplication. /sys provides information about system
hierarchy, /dev is for controlling devices. Thus, every device node is
visible in /sys as it is part of the system.

-Robert

-- 
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Operating System Research Center


  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-07  9:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-03 15:04 [RFC] [PATCH] perf: Attaching an event to a specific PMU Robert Richter
2011-07-03 18:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-04 17:59   ` Robert Richter
2011-07-05  8:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-05  9:12       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-06 16:53         ` Robert Richter
2011-07-06 17:10           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-06 17:14             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-06 17:15               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-07 10:22             ` Robert Richter
2011-07-06 17:12           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-07  9:21             ` Robert Richter [this message]
2011-07-07  9:39               ` Robert Richter
2011-07-07 19:38               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-05  9:47     ` [PATCH] perf: Extend attr check to allow also dynamically generated Robert Richter
2011-07-05 10:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-05 10:56         ` Robert Richter
2011-07-05 10:53     ` [PATCH] perf: Extend attr check to allow also dynamically generated types Robert Richter

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