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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86 <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] syscall calling convention, stts/clts, and xstate latency
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:54:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110725075422.GB32294@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E2D1E57.1080404@redhat.com>


* Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 07/25/2011 12:15 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >>  All of this makes me think that, at least on Sandy Bridge, lazy
> >>  xstate saving is a bad optimization -- if the cache is being nice,
> >>  save/restore is faster than twiddling the TS bit.  And the cost of
> >>  the trap when TS is set blows everything else away.
> >
> > Interesting. Mind cooking up a delazying patch and measure it on 
> > native as well? KVM generally makes exceptions more expensive, so 
> > the effect of lazy exceptions might be less on native.
> 
> While this is true in general, kvm will trap #NM only after a host 
> context switch or an exit to host userspace.  These are supposedly 
> rare so you won't see them a lot, especially in a benchmark 
> scenario with just one guest.
> 
> ("host context switch" includes switching to the idle thread when 
> the guest executes HLT, something I tried to optimize in the past 
> but it proved too difficult for the gain)

Yeah - but this was a fair thing to test before Andy embarks on 
something more ambitious on the native side.

Thanks,

	Ingo

      reply	other threads:[~2011-07-25  7:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-24 21:07 [RFC] syscall calling convention, stts/clts, and xstate latency Andrew Lutomirski
2011-07-24 21:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-24 22:34   ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-07-25  3:21     ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-07-25  6:42       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 10:05       ` [PATCH 3.1?] x86: Remove useless stts/clts pair in __switch_to Andy Lutomirski
2011-07-25 11:12         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 13:04           ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-07-25 14:13             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25  6:38     ` [RFC] syscall calling convention, stts/clts, and xstate latency Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25  9:44       ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-07-25  9:51         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 11:04         ` Hans Rosenfeld
2011-07-25  7:42   ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25  7:54     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]

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