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From: Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
	Sebastian Krahmer <krahmer@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH] move RLIMIT_NPROC check from set_user() to do_execve_common()
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 05:16:29 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110726011629.GA24610@openwall.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110726104713.37273143@notabene.brown>

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:47:13AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 03:40:13 +0400 Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 09:14:23PM +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> > > @@ -1433,6 +1433,19 @@ static int do_execve_common(const char *filename,
> > >  	struct files_struct *displaced;
> > >  	bool clear_in_exec;
> > >  	int retval;
> > > +	const struct cred *cred = current_cred();
> > > +
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * We move the actual failure in case of RLIMIT_NPROC excess from
> > > +	 * set*uid() to execve() because too many poorly written programs
> > > +	 * don't check setuid() return code.  Here we additionally recheck
> > > +	 * whether NPROC limit is still exceeded.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if ((current->flags & PF_NPROC_EXCEEDED) &&
> > > +	    atomic_read(&cred->user->processes) > rlimit(RLIMIT_NPROC)) {
> > > +		retval = -EAGAIN;
> > > +		goto out_ret;
> > > +	}
> > 
> > Do you possibly need:
> > 
> > 	current->flags &= ~PF_NPROC_EXCEEDED;
> > 
> > somewhere after this point?
> > 
> > I think it's weird to have past set_user() failure affect other than the
> > very next execve().
> 
> So we are hoping that no program uses execvp() or similar...

Why?  No, we don't, unless I am missing something.

> Maybe that is
> reasonable but "in for a penny, in for a pound" - I'd fail them all.
> 
> I think the flag should only be cleared once we notice that the limit is no
> longer exceeded.  So clearing the flag can appear *after* the code you quote
> above, but not in the middle of it.

Definitely.  In case execve() fails because of the limit, the flag
remains set, so a second execve() by the process will fail too.

> > Perhaps also reset the flag on fork() because we have an RLIMIT_NPROC
> > check on fork() anyway.
> 
> I agree it should be cleared here too.

Great.  Just to clarify my own words: on fork(), clear the flag in the
child process only.

> But there is still the issue of 'zygot' like services....

Here's my take on it:

1. It is not known (from the discussion so far) whether Android/Zygote
even cares about RLIMIT_NPROC specifically or not.  The code is very
generic, usable for any rlimits, and the rationale behind it might have
been to be able to apply certain other limits.  I don't know whether or
not there exists a system that actually sets RLIMIT_NPROC via that
mechanism and expects it working.

2. If desired, Android/Zygote will be able to check the
PF_NPROC_EXCEEDED flag, via procfs or via a prctl() interface that we
might introduce.  Or it may simply pass an extra fork().

> Let me try another suggestion.  Instead of catching the error in
> do_execve_common, how about we catch it in do_mmap_pgoff.
> i.e. if the flag is set and an attempt it made to create an executable
> mapping, we check the user->processes against the limit then - either failing
> or clearing the flag and succeeding.
> 
> This will stop an execve, and an attempt to load a shared library and call it.

This sounds too hackish to me, although if others are (unexpectedly) OK
with it, I don't mind.

Thanks,

Alexander

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-26  1:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-12 13:09 [kernel-hardening] RLIMIT_NPROC check in set_user() Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-12 13:09 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-06 17:36 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-06 17:36   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-06 18:01   ` [kernel-hardening] " Linus Torvalds
2011-07-06 18:01     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-06 18:59     ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-07  7:56       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-07  8:19         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-12 13:27           ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH] move RLIMIT_NPROC check from set_user() to do_execve_common() Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-12 13:27             ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-12 21:16             ` [kernel-hardening] " Linus Torvalds
2011-07-12 21:16               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-12 23:14               ` [kernel-hardening] " NeilBrown
2011-07-12 23:14                 ` NeilBrown
2011-07-13  6:31                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer
2011-07-13  6:31                   ` Solar Designer
2011-07-13  7:06                   ` [kernel-hardening] " NeilBrown
2011-07-13  7:06                     ` NeilBrown
2011-07-13 20:46                     ` [kernel-hardening] " Linus Torvalds
2011-07-13 20:46                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14  0:11                       ` [kernel-hardening] " James Morris
2011-07-14  0:11                         ` James Morris
2011-07-14  1:27                         ` [kernel-hardening] " NeilBrown
2011-07-14  1:27                           ` NeilBrown
2011-07-14 15:06                           ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer
2011-07-14 15:06                             ` Solar Designer
2011-07-15  3:30                             ` [kernel-hardening] " NeilBrown
2011-07-15  3:30                               ` NeilBrown
2011-07-15  5:35                               ` [kernel-hardening] " Willy Tarreau
2011-07-15  5:35                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-07-15  6:31                               ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-15  7:06                                 ` NeilBrown
2011-07-15  7:06                                   ` NeilBrown
2011-07-15  7:38                                   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-15 13:04                                     ` Solar Designer
2011-07-15 13:04                                       ` Solar Designer
2011-07-15 13:58                                     ` [kernel-hardening] " Stephen Smalley
2011-07-15 15:26                                       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-15 19:54                                         ` Stephen Smalley
2011-07-21  4:09                                           ` NeilBrown
2011-07-21 12:48                                             ` Solar Designer
2011-07-21 18:21                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-21 19:39                                                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer
2011-07-25 17:14                                                   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-25 17:14                                                     ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-25 23:40                                                     ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer
2011-07-26  0:47                                                       ` NeilBrown
2011-07-26  1:16                                                         ` Solar Designer [this message]
2011-07-26  4:11                                                           ` NeilBrown
2011-07-26 14:48                                                             ` [kernel-hardening] [patch v2] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-26 14:48                                                               ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-27  2:15                                                               ` [kernel-hardening] " NeilBrown
2011-07-27  2:15                                                                 ` NeilBrown
2011-07-29  7:07                                                                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-29  8:06                                                               ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-29  8:06                                                                 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-29  8:11                                                                 ` [kernel-hardening] [patch v3] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-29  8:11                                                                   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-29  8:17                                                                   ` [kernel-hardening] " James Morris
2011-07-29  8:17                                                                     ` James Morris
2011-07-24 14:32                                               ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH] " Solar Designer
2011-07-24 18:02                                                 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-14  1:30                         ` [kernel-hardening] " KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-07-14  1:30                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-07-13  5:36             ` [kernel-hardening] " KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-07-13  5:36               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-07-14 15:22             ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer
2011-07-14 15:55               ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-11 16:59       ` [kernel-hardening] RLIMIT_NPROC check in set_user() Solar Designer
2011-07-11 18:56         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-13  9:48           ` Solar Designer
2011-07-14 14:15             ` Solar Designer
2011-07-14 14:27               ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-14 15:14                 ` Solar Designer
2011-07-14 16:31                   ` [kernel-hardening] compile time warnings in libc for setuid() unused result (was: RLIMIT_NPROC check in set_user()) Vasiliy Kulikov

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