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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Introduce vm_stop_permanent()
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:22:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110802102215.GA2534@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110728103143.548d7bb1@doriath>

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:31:43AM -0300, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:23:22 +0300
> Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 07/28/2011 12:44 AM, Blue Swirl wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Luiz Capitulino<lcapitulino@redhat.com>  wrote:
> > > >  This function should be used when the VM is not supposed to resume
> > > >  execution (eg. by issuing 'cont' monitor command).
> > > >
> > > >  Today, we allow the user to resume execution even when:
> > > >
> > > >    o the guest shuts down and -no-shutdown is used
> > > >    o there's a kvm internal error
> > > >    o loading the VM state with -loadvm or "loadvm" in the monitor fails
> > > >
> > > >  I think only badness can happen from the cases above.
> > >
> > > I'd suppose a system_reset should bring the system back to sanity and
> > > then clear vm_permanent_stopped (where's -ly?)
> 
> What's -ly?
> 
> > > except maybe for KVM
> > > internal error if that can't be recovered. Then it would not very
> > > permanent anymore, so the name would need adjusting.
> > 
> > Currently, all kvm internal errors are recoverable by reset (and 
> > possibly by fiddling with memory/registers).
> 
> Ok, but a poweroff in the guest isn't recoverable with system_reset
> right? Or does it depend on the guest?
> 
> I get funny results if qemu is started with -no-shutdown and I run cont after
> a poweroff in a F15 guest. Sometimes qemu will exit after a few seconds,
> sometimes 'info status' will say 'running'.

libvirt uses this approach to fake a controlled soft reboot of guests.
eg

  $ qemu .... -no-shutdown
  ...some time later...
  system_shutdown
  ...wait for SHUTDOWN event...
  system_reset
  cont

Previous releases of QEMU had a bug in some device backends which would
cause a crash sometimes, but in general it ought to work IMHO.

Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-08-02 10:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-27 18:42 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Introduce vm_stop_permanent() Luiz Capitulino
2011-07-27 21:44 ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-28  7:23   ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-28 13:31     ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-07-28 13:37       ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-28 14:19         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-28 15:18           ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-07-28 15:20             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-28 17:39               ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-07-28 17:48                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-07-28 17:52                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-28 18:00                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-07-28 18:04                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-28 18:22                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-07-28 18:28                           ` Alon Levy
2011-07-30  7:41                           ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-01 12:46                             ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-08-02 10:22       ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2011-08-02 19:07         ` Luiz Capitulino

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