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From: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>
To: Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] Make PTRACE_SEIZE set ptrace options specified in 'data'
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 22:03:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201109092203.10062.vda.linux@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201109091809.57272.pedro@codesourcery.com>

On Friday 09 September 2011 19:09, Pedro Alves wrote:
> > This would be a _very_ minor improvement, so tiny it's not worth
> > bothering with. Let me show you the real-world code (part of strace
> > source) which skips over unneeded PTRACE_EVENT_EXEC:
> > 
> >                 if ((status >> 16) != 0)
> >                         /* Ptrace event (we ignore all of them for now) */
> >                         goto restart_tracee_with_sig_0;
> > 
> > Yes. That is all.
> > It probably compiles into just two assembly instructions.
> 
> WTH?  I'm talking about _not forcing the tracee to stop_.  Let
> me repeat.  NOT FORCING THE TRACEE TO STOP.

No need to shout.

execve is such a rare syscall the one extra stop on it is not
going to be a problem.

> And about not needing to handle the magic unadorned SIGTRAP.
> The magic unadorned post-exec SIGTRAP does not have `status & 0xff00'
> set, it is not a ptrace event!

What SIGTRAP? With PTRACE_O_TRACEEXEC, there is no SIGTRAP.

> If we don't disable the magic SIGTRAP, there's no way for a
> tracer to do a very non-invasive SEIZE, say, a GDB mode that
> only cares to let the tracer run free to catch SIGSEGVs
> in some child, while later on during the run, the user remembers
> to set a breakpoint.  At that point the tracer needs to catch
> exec events, so it'd enable TRACE_O_EVENTEXEC.  Getting rid of
> the SIGTRAP gets rid of the spurious stops when TRACE_O_EVENTEXEC
> is not enabled.

This part I don't understand.

(btw, PTRACE_O_TRACEEXEC, not TRACE_O_EVENTEXEC).

-- 
vda

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-09 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-08 18:22 [PATCH v3] Make PTRACE_SEIZE set ptrace options specified in 'data' Denys Vlasenko
2011-09-08 19:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-09 11:12 ` Pedro Alves
2011-09-09 12:28   ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-09-09 13:15     ` Pedro Alves
2011-09-09 16:30       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-09 16:55       ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-09-09 17:09         ` Pedro Alves
2011-09-09 17:18           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-09 20:03           ` Denys Vlasenko [this message]
2011-09-10 11:19             ` Pedro Alves
2011-09-10 11:40               ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-09-10 12:12                 ` Pedro Alves
2011-09-10 15:36                   ` Pedro Alves
2011-09-13  7:45                     ` Indan Zupancic
2011-09-13  8:04                   ` Indan Zupancic
2011-09-10 23:34 ` Tejun Heo

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