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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>
Cc: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Archit Taneja <archit@ti.com>, "Clark, Rob" <rob@ti.com>
Subject: Re: Proposal for a low-level Linux display framework
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:17:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110916141719.GD2873@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yunfwjxwbjq.fsf@aiko.keithp.com>

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 07:55:37PM -0500, Keith Packard wrote:
> I suspect helper functions would be a good model to follow, rather than
> trying to create a whole new device infrastructure; some of the
> communication paths aren't easily separable from the underlying output
> devices.

This. Helper functions make the driver writers life so much easier - if
your hw doesn't quite fit the model, you can usually extend functionality
with much less fuzz than if there's a full framework. This is also pretty
much the reason, why I don't like ttm.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Mail: daniel@ffwll.ch
Mobile: +41 (0)79 365 57 48

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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>
Cc: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Archit Taneja <archit@ti.com>, "Clark, Rob" <rob@ti.com>
Subject: Re: Proposal for a low-level Linux display framework
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:17:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110916141719.GD2873@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yunfwjxwbjq.fsf@aiko.keithp.com>

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 07:55:37PM -0500, Keith Packard wrote:
> I suspect helper functions would be a good model to follow, rather than
> trying to create a whole new device infrastructure; some of the
> communication paths aren't easily separable from the underlying output
> devices.

This. Helper functions make the driver writers life so much easier - if
your hw doesn't quite fit the model, you can usually extend functionality
with much less fuzz than if there's a full framework. This is also pretty
much the reason, why I don't like ttm.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Mail: daniel@ffwll.ch
Mobile: +41 (0)79 365 57 48

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-16 14:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-15 12:07 Proposal for a low-level Linux display framework Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-15 12:07 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-15 12:07 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-15 14:59 ` Keith Packard
2011-09-15 14:59   ` Keith Packard
2011-09-15 14:59   ` Keith Packard
2011-09-15 15:29   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-15 15:29     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-15 15:29     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-15 15:50     ` Keith Packard
2011-09-15 15:50       ` Keith Packard
2011-09-15 15:50       ` Keith Packard
2011-09-15 17:05       ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 17:05         ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 17:05         ` Alan Cox
2011-09-17 21:36         ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-09-17 21:36           ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-09-17 21:36           ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-09-15 17:12       ` Florian Tobias Schandinat
2011-09-15 17:12         ` Florian Tobias Schandinat
2011-09-15 17:18         ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 17:18           ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 17:18           ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 17:47           ` Florian Tobias Schandinat
2011-09-15 17:47             ` Florian Tobias Schandinat
2011-09-15 19:05             ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 19:05               ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 19:05               ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 19:46               ` Florian Tobias Schandinat
2011-09-15 19:46                 ` Florian Tobias Schandinat
2011-09-15 21:31                 ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 21:31                   ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 21:31                   ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 17:52         ` Alex Deucher
2011-09-15 17:52           ` Alex Deucher
2011-09-15 17:56           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-09-15 17:56             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-09-15 18:04             ` Alex Deucher
2011-09-15 18:04               ` Alex Deucher
2011-09-15 18:04               ` Alex Deucher
2011-09-15 18:07               ` Corbin Simpson
2011-09-15 18:07               ` Corbin Simpson
2011-09-15 18:39           ` Florian Tobias Schandinat
2011-09-15 18:58             ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 18:58               ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 18:58               ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 19:18               ` Florian Tobias Schandinat
     [not found]                 ` <4E724F93.1050203-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-15 19:28                   ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 19:28                     ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 19:28                     ` Alan Cox
2011-09-15 19:45                 ` Alex Deucher
2011-09-15 19:45                   ` Alex Deucher
2011-09-17 14:44               ` Felipe Contreras
2011-09-17 14:44                 ` Felipe Contreras
2011-09-17 15:16                 ` Rob Clark
2011-09-17 15:16                   ` Rob Clark
2011-09-17 15:16                   ` Rob Clark
2011-09-17 16:11                   ` Florian Tobias Schandinat
2011-09-17 16:11                     ` Florian Tobias Schandinat
2011-09-17 16:47                     ` Dave Airlie
2011-09-17 16:47                       ` Dave Airlie
2011-09-17 16:47                       ` Dave Airlie
2011-09-17 18:15                       ` Florian Tobias Schandinat
2011-09-17 18:23                         ` Dave Airlie
2011-09-17 18:23                           ` Dave Airlie
2011-09-17 18:23                           ` Dave Airlie
2011-09-17 19:06                           ` Florian Tobias Schandinat
2011-09-17 19:25                             ` Corbin Simpson
2011-09-17 19:25                               ` Corbin Simpson
2011-09-17 21:25                             ` Alex Deucher
2011-09-17 21:25                               ` Alex Deucher
2011-09-17 21:25                               ` Alex Deucher
2011-09-17 20:25                           ` Alan Cox
2011-09-17 20:25                             ` Alan Cox
2011-09-17 20:25                             ` Alan Cox
2011-10-31 20:24                             ` Jesse Barnes
2011-10-31 20:24                               ` Jesse Barnes
2011-09-17 16:50                     ` Rob Clark
2011-09-17 16:50                       ` Rob Clark
2011-09-16  4:53             ` Keith Packard
2011-09-16  4:53               ` Keith Packard
2011-09-16  4:53               ` Keith Packard
2011-09-17 23:12             ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-09-17 23:12               ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-09-17 23:12               ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-09-18 16:14               ` Rob Clark
2011-09-18 16:14                 ` Rob Clark
2011-09-18 16:14                 ` Rob Clark
2011-09-18 21:55                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-09-18 21:55                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-09-18 21:55                   ` Laurent Pinchart
     [not found]               ` <201109180112.15896.laurent.pinchart-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-18 22:23                 ` Alan Cox
2011-09-18 22:23                   ` Alan Cox
2011-09-18 22:23                   ` Alan Cox
2011-09-19  0:09                   ` Rob Clark
2011-09-19  0:09                     ` Rob Clark
2011-09-20 23:32                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-09-20 23:32                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-09-15 18:12         ` Keith Packard
2011-09-15 18:12           ` Keith Packard
2011-09-15 18:12           ` Keith Packard
2011-10-01 17:30           ` Enrico Weigelt
2011-09-15 17:21       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-15 17:21         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-15 18:32         ` Rob Clark
2011-09-15 18:32           ` Rob Clark
2011-09-15 18:32           ` Rob Clark
2011-09-16  0:55         ` Keith Packard
2011-09-16  0:55           ` Keith Packard
2011-09-16  0:55           ` Keith Packard
2011-09-16  6:38           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-16  6:38             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-16 14:17           ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2011-09-16 14:17             ` Daniel Vetter
2011-09-16 16:53           ` Alan Cox
2011-09-16 16:53             ` Alan Cox
2011-09-16 16:53             ` Alan Cox
2011-09-19  6:33             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-19  6:33               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-19  6:53               ` Keith Packard
2011-09-19  6:53                 ` Keith Packard
2011-09-19  6:53                 ` Keith Packard
2011-09-19  7:29                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-19  7:29                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-20  8:29                   ` Patrik Jakobsson
2011-09-20  8:29                     ` Patrik Jakobsson
2011-09-20  8:29                     ` Patrik Jakobsson
2011-09-20 15:55                     ` Keith Packard
2011-09-20 15:55                       ` Keith Packard
2011-09-20 15:55                       ` Keith Packard
2011-09-20 21:20                       ` Patrik Jakobsson
2011-09-20 21:20                         ` Patrik Jakobsson
2011-09-21  6:01                         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-21  6:01                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-09-21 18:07                           ` Patrik Jakobsson
2011-09-21 18:07                             ` Patrik Jakobsson
2011-09-21 18:07                             ` Patrik Jakobsson
2011-10-01 17:34         ` Enrico Weigelt
2011-09-15 15:03 ` Kyungmin Park
2011-09-15 15:03   ` Kyungmin Park
2011-09-21 13:26 ` Heiko Stübner
2011-09-21 13:26   ` Heiko Stübner
2011-10-01 16:52 ` Enrico Weigelt

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