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From: Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] zuluCrypt v3.0 released.
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:39:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111005153933.GA896@tansi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E8C72B6.1040302@laposte.net>

On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 05:07:34PM +0200, Quentin Lefebvre wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This looks like a very nice project.
> 
> On 05/10/2011 08:28, .. ink .. wrote :
> > project page: http://code.google.com/p/zulucrypt/
> > 
> > screenshots of the new release:
> > https://picasaweb.google.com/109794855728648275729/ZuluCryptV30?authuser=0&feat=directlink
> > 
> > video showing features of the new release:
> > https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B8juRKTjN4Q9Njk0MTY4OWQtODcyMi00MGY2LTg5ODktOTg2MGYyNGRiNzI1&hl=en_US
> > 
> > This release put cryptsetup/zuluCrypt at the same level as truecrypt feature
> > wise when used from the GUI.
> > 
> > It can now (from the GUI)
> > 1. Create key files( 512 bytes in size composed of only the 94 printable
> > characters).
> 
> 512 bits rather than bytes ?
> 
> > 2. Create volumes both in files and partitions.
> > 3. Create both plain type and luks types volumes.
> > 4. Add keys to luks type volumes.
> > 5 . Delete keys from luks type volumes.
> > 6. Close a bunch of bugs.
> > 
> > All volume management can be done through either passphrases or key files.
> > 
> > The core functionality is now in place and next version(version 4) will be
> > for GUI user configuration options of things like font type, font size, use
> > of tray icon and maintaining a list of favorite volumes.
> > 
> 
> I just took a look at the screenshots and I'm a bit surprised about the
> fact keys are generated from /dev/urandom. Even for 512 bits, that is 64
> bytes, wouldn't it be better to read key files from /dev/random ? Unless
> there is a setting allowing the user to explicitly choose the source ?

We had this discussion here several times for the  
LUKS master key.

The potential problem we identified with /dev/random was
entropy starvation. In an interactive application, this 
should not be a problem, just tell the user to move
the mouse a bit. It still can take a few secons to 
generate even 64 random bytes when the pool was just emptied.

Generally, /dev/urandom is enough even for key-grade
material. But making it configurable (as it is for 
cryptsetup) would be definitely a good idea. And then
having cryptsetup use the same when creating a LUKS
container.

Arno
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-05 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-05  6:28 [dm-crypt] zuluCrypt v3.0 released .. ink ..
2011-10-05 15:07 ` Quentin Lefebvre
2011-10-05 15:39   ` Arno Wagner [this message]
2011-10-05 16:13     ` Milan Broz
2011-10-05 18:26       ` .. ink ..
2011-10-05 21:36         ` Arno Wagner
2011-10-05 18:18   ` .. ink ..
2011-10-06  1:27     ` .. ink ..
2011-10-06  8:36       ` Quentin Lefebvre
2011-10-06 14:27       ` Arno Wagner

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