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From: Ivan Djelic <ivan.djelic@parrot.com>
To: Ricard Wanderlof <ricard.wanderlof@axis.com>
Cc: "linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: UBIFS recovery fails
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:42:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111018084222.GC5997@parrot.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1110181007100.30940@lnxricardw.se.axis.com>

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 09:11:54AM +0100, Ricard Wanderlof wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> 
> > [...] Unfortunately, no one really invested time into making UBIFS 
> > support MLC very well. It needs some more work. It also have some issues 
> > related to unstable bits in modern SLC.
> >
> > In short - if you want to use UBIFS on MLC - you should not have unclean
> > reboots. If you want to make UBIFS 100% uclean-reboot save on MLC - you
> > need to work on it some more.
> >
> > We (the original authors) developed and tested it on very robust SLC
> > NAND.
> 
> Do you have any specifics on what the issues are with MLC ?
 
Besides unstable bits, lower endurance, higher ecc requirements and NOP1, there
is a "page pairing" phenomenon which is not handled by UBI/UBIFS AFAIK.
When you cut power during a page write, you may lose data in another (paired)
previously programmed page.

BR,
--
Ivan

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-18  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-17 13:29 UBIFS recovery fails Daniel Kuhn
2011-10-17 20:17 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-10-18  8:11   ` Ricard Wanderlof
2011-10-18  8:42     ` Ivan Djelic [this message]
2011-10-20 16:37       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-10-20 16:36     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-10-18  8:29   ` Ivan Djelic
2011-10-19 15:15     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-10-19 17:27       ` Ivan Djelic
2011-10-18 12:47   ` Jean-Sébastien Gagnon
2011-10-18 14:54     ` Ivan Djelic
2011-10-18 15:10       ` Jean-Sébastien Gagnon
2011-10-18 15:32         ` Ivan Djelic
2011-10-18 16:05           ` Jean-Sébastien Gagnon
2011-10-19  6:50             ` Ricard Wanderlof
2011-10-19 10:22               ` Ivan Djelic
2011-10-19 12:17                 ` Atlant Schmidt
2011-10-19 12:52                   ` Ricard Wanderlof
2011-10-19 13:30                     ` Atlant Schmidt
2011-10-20 16:43         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-10-24  7:00           ` Ricard Wanderlof
2011-10-29 19:43             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-10-20 14:14       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-10-18 15:29   ` Daniel Kuhn

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