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From: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrey Vagin <avagin@parallels.com>,
	James Bottomley <jbottomley@parallels.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 5/5] elf: Add support for loading ET_CKPT files
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:36:28 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111021183628.GH31508@moon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111021182610.GB28670@google.com>

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:26:10AM -0700, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:56:32PM +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
> > > I find that quite difficult to agree with.  We're talking about some
> > > minor additions to prctl against updating exec path to do something it
> > > was never designed to do + new binary format.
> > 
> > Tejun, regardless the mm_struct entries, what about mapping vdso pages at the
> > place they had on snapshot time? How would we handle them?
> 
> We discussed this elsewhere but just for the record.
> 

Yes ;)

> I haven't really looked into vdso but what the currently suggested
> implementation isn't correct.  vdso is there so that kernel can
> provide userspace code which may vary depending on kernel version and
> the actual machine it's running on, so both saving vdso and restoring
> verbatim and asking the kernel to map its vdso at certain address are
> wrong.
> 

It's fine for first iteration (or rather for first RFC where such details
exactly to be revealed and discussed).

> The checkpointer would need to remember the vdso symtab from the
> original process and then somehow build indirect jump table at the
> same address which redirects to the vdso of the machine the target
> process is being restored on.  I'm not sure about the details of the
> implementation but it could be something like "please allow me to
> write to this original vdso address and keep your vdso elsewhere".
> 

Original vdso address should remain as it was at checkpoint time but
you're right that we need kinda bridge between various kernels versions
I think.

> I think this comes back to why one-stop-solution-in-kernel is a bad
> idea for CR.  My impression is that when people say "that would
> require too many small API updatesa", it usually means that they
> haven't really thought about each necessary piece enough and just
> hacked something up lumpy and fuzzy on the edges.  The thing is that
> no matter how you lump them, those problems don't go away and
> attacking things in small understandable API pieces not only ensures
> the update itself makes sense and may be useful for others too but
> also forces people to actually think about each problem.
> 

	Cyrill

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-21 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-14 11:04 [patch 0/5] [RFC] Checkpoint/restore and Elf extension Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-14 11:04 ` [patch 1/5] proc: Introduce the Children: line in /proc/<pid>/status Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-14 16:36   ` Tejun Heo
2011-10-14 11:04 ` [patch 2/5] fs: Add do_close helper Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-14 11:04 ` [patch 3/5] fs, proc: Add /proc/$pid/tls entry Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-14 16:40   ` Tejun Heo
2011-10-14 16:43     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-14 11:04 ` [patch 4/5] fs, proc: Add start_data, end_data, start_brk members to /proc/$pid/stat Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-14 11:04 ` [patch 5/5] elf: Add support for loading ET_CKPT files Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-14 17:10   ` Tejun Heo
2011-10-14 17:33     ` Tejun Heo
2011-10-19  9:03       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-10-19 18:22         ` Tejun Heo
2011-10-19 18:49           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-19 18:52             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-19 18:53               ` Tejun Heo
2011-10-19 19:56           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-21 18:26             ` Tejun Heo
2011-10-21 18:36               ` Cyrill Gorcunov [this message]
2011-10-21 18:42                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-21 18:48                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-10-21 18:53                     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-22  6:34                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-10-20  8:33           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-10-20 15:56             ` Tejun Heo
2011-10-20 16:04               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-20 17:30               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-10-15 18:59     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-21 11:06     ` Glauber Costa
2011-10-21 11:20       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-21 11:21         ` Glauber Costa
2011-10-21 11:35           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-22 16:49     ` Dan Merillat

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