From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753654Ab1LLRfF (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:35:05 -0500 Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:44226 "EHLO out2.smtp.messagingengine.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753715Ab1LLRfA (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:35:00 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: rcLsPHpPuBKAPJL4BOz705jCJpw6GEhbIYWoYJRZf0CB 1323711296 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:33:44 -0800 From: Greg KH To: Daniel Baluta Cc: Eric Dumazet , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, adobriyan@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] kref: add function for reading kref value Message-ID: <20111212173344.GA10162@kroah.com> References: <1323693892-11570-1-git-send-email-dbaluta@ixiacom.com> <20111212150255.GA7506@kroah.com> <1323703934.1765.15.camel@edumazet-HP-Compaq-6005-Pro-SFF-PC> <1323704494.1765.17.camel@edumazet-HP-Compaq-6005-Pro-SFF-PC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 06:42:59PM +0200, Daniel Baluta wrote: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote: > > Le lundi 12 décembre 2011 à 17:39 +0200, Daniel Baluta a écrit : > > > >> Ok, for the moment it seems to be a bad idea. But my intention is > >> to integrate kref to networking code, and then to write a general > >> debugging tool for refs. > >> > >> Tracking down reference count problems is hard, and this tool can > >> really help everyone. > > > > I dont think kref will help you that much, because its used everywhere. > > > > Adding a general debugging tool will provide too much noise. > > > > Instead, we (network dev) add debugging points where we want. > > Yes, but you have to do this each time you start debugging, for a > particular referenced counted object. > > We must find a clever solution to avoid the noise. (e.g use > /proc, /sysfs, /debugfs options to trigger dumping info for > some/all objects with a certain state). Then use the dynamic debug infrastructure, which is there to help you try to handle this type of debugging on-the-fly. But again, it's not a kref issue, sorry. greg k-h