From: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: spice-devel <spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] client_migrate_info - do we need a new command?
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:25:47 -0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111213172547.49a06204@doriath> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EE79722.7070807@codemonkey.ws>
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:19:14 -0600
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
> In our call today, Avi asked that we evaluate whether the interface for
> client_migrate_info is the Right Interface before we introduce a new command to
> work around the fact that async commands are broken.
>
> I looked into this today and here's what I came to.
>
> 1) What are the failure scenarios?
>
> The issue is qerror_report(). Roughly speaking, qerror_report either prints to
> stderr or it associates an error with the current monitor command.
>
> The problem with this is that qerror_report() is used all over the code base
> today and if an error occurs in a device that has nothing to do with the
> command, instead of printing to stderr, the command will fail with a bizarre
> error reason (even though it really succeeded).
>
> 2) Does the command have the right semantics?
>
> The command has the following doc:
>
> client_migrate_info
> ------------------
>
> Set the spice/vnc connection info for the migration target. The spice/vnc
> server will ask the spice/vnc client to automatically reconnect using the
> new parameters (if specified) once the vm migration finished successfully.
>
> Arguments:
>
> - "protocol": protocol: "spice" or "vnc" (json-string)
> - "hostname": migration target hostname (json-string)
> - "port": spice/vnc tcp port for plaintext channels (json-int, optional)
> - "tls-port": spice tcp port for tls-secured channels (json-int, optional)
> - "cert-subject": server certificate subject (json-string, optional)
>
> Example:
>
> -> { "execute": "client_migrate_info",
> "arguments": { "protocol": "spice",
> "hostname": "virt42.lab.kraxel.org",
> "port": 1234 } }
> <- { "return": {} }
>
> Originally, the command was a normal sync command and my understanding is that
> it simply posted notification to the clients. Apparently, users of the
> interface need to actually know when the client has Ack'd this operation because
> otherwise it's racy since a disconnect may occur before the client processes the
> redirection.
>
> OTOH, that means that what we really need is 1) tell connected clients that they
> need to redirect 2) notification when/if connected clients are prepared to redirect.
>
> The trouble with using a async command for this is that the time between (1) &
> (2) may be arbitrarily long. Since most QMP clients today always use a NULL
> tag, that effectively means the monitor is blocked for an arbitrarily long time
> while this operation is in flight.
>
> I don't know if libspice uses a timeout for this operation, but if it doesn't,
> this could block arbitrarily long. Even with tagging, we don't have a way to
> cancel in flight commands so blocking for arbitrary time periods is problematic.
>
> I think splitting this into two commands, one that requests the clients to
> redirect and then an event that lets a tool know that the clients are ready to
> migrate ends up being nicer. It means that we never end up with a blocked QMP
> session and clients are more likely to properly deal with the fact that an event
> may take arbitrarily long to happen.
I think someone has suggested this down the other thread, and I agree with it.
Wrt the current command, I think that converting it to the QAPI will solve the
issue with the global error.
>
> Clients can also implement their own cancel logic by choosing to stop waiting
> for an event to happen and then ignoring spurious events.
>
> So regardless of the async issue, I think splitting this command is the right
> thing to do long term.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-13 19:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-13 18:19 [Qemu-devel] client_migrate_info - do we need a new command? Anthony Liguori
2011-12-13 19:25 ` Luiz Capitulino [this message]
2011-12-14 9:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [Spice-devel] " Yonit Halperin
2011-12-14 10:16 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-12-15 9:03 ` Gerd Hoffmann
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