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From: "Michael Büsch" <m@bues.ch>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>,
	Chaoming Li <chaoming_li@realsil.com.cn>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@suse.de>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Wireless List <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: loading firmware while usermodehelper disabled.
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 22:39:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120101223913.3ff57d0f@milhouse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201201012227.56568.oliver@neukum.org>

On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 22:27:56 +0100
Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org> wrote:

> Ideally usbcore would deal with such devices, but at present the USB layer
> is unable to cleanly resume devices that change their IDs during
> resume.
> Solving this would mean putting all firmware loaders into kernel space.
> And the mode switching logic as well.

I don't get it. Why would a device enter a state after resume, that it was not
in at _any_ time before the machine was suspended?

These change-id-on-bootstrap devices usually work like this,
as far as I know:

probe bootstrap device (switches hw to real device)
probe real device (firmware is loaded)
Suspend machine
Resume machine
usb detects that the device is "gone"
probe/resume bootstrap device (switches hw to real device)
probe/resume real device (No need to fetch fw from userspace. It's already cached)

What did I get wrong?

-- 
Greetings, Michael.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-01 21:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-30 23:54 loading firmware while usermodehelper disabled Dave Jones
2011-12-31  0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-12-31  0:40   ` Matthew Garrett
2011-12-31 15:33     ` Alan Stern
2011-12-31 15:59       ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-01  2:21         ` Alan Stern
2012-01-01 12:22           ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-01 16:17             ` Alan Stern
2012-01-01 16:25               ` Michael Büsch
2012-01-01 20:30               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-01 21:27                 ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-01 21:39                   ` Michael Büsch [this message]
2012-01-02  3:33                     ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-02  7:56                     ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-02  4:17                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-02  5:35                   ` Gábor Stefanik
2012-01-02  8:38                     ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-02 16:54                 ` Alan Stern
2012-01-02 20:41                   ` Jack Stone
2012-01-02 20:48                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-02 20:55                       ` Jack Stone
2012-01-02 21:00                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-02 21:09                           ` Jack Stone
2012-01-02 21:23                             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-02 21:31                               ` Jack Stone
2012-01-02 21:52                                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-02 21:57                                   ` Jack Stone
2012-01-02 22:31                                     ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-02 23:25                                       ` Jack Stone
2012-01-03  0:31                                         ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-03  0:44                                           ` Jack Stone
2012-01-03  0:58                                             ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03  7:17                                               ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-03  7:41                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-03  0:35                                 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03  0:50                           ` Alan Cox
2012-01-02 21:19                       ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-02 21:26                         ` Jack Stone
2012-01-03  0:42                           ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03 11:57                             ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-03 12:19                               ` Jack Stone
2012-01-03 13:20                                 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03 13:30                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-03 13:36                                     ` Alan Cox
2012-01-02 21:27                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-02 21:50                           ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-02 22:03                             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-02 22:12                               ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-02 22:19                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-02 22:29                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-02 22:46                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-02 23:00                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-02 23:31                                         ` Jack Stone
2012-01-03  0:13                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-03  0:20                                             ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03  0:37                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-03  0:22                                             ` Jack Stone
2012-01-03  0:31                                               ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03  0:41                                                 ` Jack Stone
2012-01-03  0:38                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-03  0:47                                                 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03  0:18                                           ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03  8:26                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-03  2:45                             ` Alan Stern
2012-01-03  3:25                               ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-03  5:53                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-03 11:50                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-03 15:16                                     ` Alan Stern
2012-01-03 12:24                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-03 16:29                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-03 15:09                                 ` Alan Stern
2012-01-03  9:16                             ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2012-01-03  9:16                               ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2012-01-03  9:24                               ` david
2012-01-03 13:43                               ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03 14:12                               ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2012-01-03  0:00                           ` Alan Cox
2012-01-02 23:50                       ` Alan Cox
2012-01-02 23:53                     ` Alan Cox
2011-12-31 16:27       ` Matthew Garrett
2011-12-31 14:20   ` Martin Schleier
2011-12-31 18:39   ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-01  9:48     ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-01  9:54       ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-01 12:28         ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-01 16:32           ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-01 17:06             ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-01 20:39             ` Alan Cox
2012-01-01 20:50               ` Michael Büsch
2012-01-02  3:24                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-02  3:29               ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-01  3:49   ` Larry Finger
2012-01-01 22:45   ` Jack Stone
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-12-31 15:01 drahemmaps
2011-12-31 19:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-12-31 20:15   ` Matthew Garrett
2011-12-31 20:26     ` Linus Torvalds

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