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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [lttng-dev] Perf ABI (was: Re: [PATCH 09/11] sched: export task_prio to GPL modules)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:55:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120116085507.GA759@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120112200003.GC28100@kroah.com>


* Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:

> So I think udev actually is a good example of how to do it 
> right, we provide proper backwards compatibility in the kernel 
> to keep userspace working.

I agree, i still have a udev system that i installed 5 years 
ago, and it's working mostly fine with current kernels.

Compatibility is a desirable property, it is something that 
preserves our users - and if done right it's almost never a big 
issue technically. If it is hindering someone then there must be 
other problems.

Of course to developers the simplest approach is always to just 
develop without regard for compatibility. The simplest form of 
that is that people write patches that work fine on their own 
systems but crash the kernel on other systems. We fix those 
bugs. Another, subtler form is when the patches work fine on 
their systems but break apps on other systems. We fix those bugs 
too.

That's why we have testing, regression tracking and maintainers, 
to control that - compatibility is just another dimension to 
'correctness', in the typical case with no inherent restrictions 
on future features and possibilities.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-16  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1322775683-8741-1-git-send-email-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
2011-12-01 21:41 ` [PATCH 01/11] mm: export vmalloc_sync_all symbol to GPL modules Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-01 21:41   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-01 21:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-12-01 21:57     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-12-01 22:13     ` Greg KH
2011-12-01 22:13       ` Greg KH
2011-12-01 22:19       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-01 22:19         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-01 22:41         ` Greg KH
2011-12-01 22:41           ` Greg KH
2011-12-01 22:28       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-12-01 22:28         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-12-01 23:00         ` Greg KH
2011-12-01 23:00           ` Greg KH
2011-12-01 21:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-12-01 21:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-12-01 21:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-12-01 21:41 ` [PATCH 03/11] fs/splice: export splice_to_pipe " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-02  7:19   ` Jens Axboe
2011-12-02 12:32     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-01 21:41 ` [PATCH 09/11] sched: export task_prio " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-01 21:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-01 22:04     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-01 22:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-01 22:15         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-01 22:36           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-01 23:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-02 13:51               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-01 23:06           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-01 23:18             ` Greg KH
2011-12-01 23:47               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-01 22:14     ` Greg KH
2011-12-01 22:20       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-01 23:07       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-01 23:17         ` Greg KH
2011-12-05 14:17           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-06 21:44             ` Greg KH
2011-12-08  5:23               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-08 23:27                 ` Greg KH
2011-12-19 10:49                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-19 15:30                     ` [lttng-dev] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-20 11:08                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-20 21:46                         ` Frank Rowand
2011-12-23 10:51                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-21 18:47                         ` Aaron Spear
2011-12-21 18:58                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-12-23 16:46                         ` Perf ABI (was: Re: [lttng-dev] [PATCH 09/11] sched: export task_prio to GPL modules) Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-23 17:21                           ` Ted Ts'o
2011-12-23 18:16                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-25 17:46                               ` Ted Ts'o
2012-01-12 14:09                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-01-12 14:54                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 15:39                                     ` [lttng-dev] Perf ABI (was: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-01-12 15:53                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 15:59                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 16:27                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-01-12 16:34                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 20:00                                       ` Greg KH
2012-01-16  8:55                                         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-12-07 22:57             ` [PATCH 09/11] sched: export task_prio to GPL modules Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-12-08  5:40               ` Ingo Molnar

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