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From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	acme@redhat.com, mingo@elte.hu, paulus@samba.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/9] perf: Adding sysfs group format attribute for pmu device
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:31:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120201143137.GD1655@m.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1328105932.2662.5.camel@laptop>

On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 03:18:52PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 14:13 +0100, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> > > Are you are suggesting that a single event could use multiple groups
> > > because they may share some common fields, such as the event code?  If
> > > so, I think that might be confusing.   I think it would be better to
> > > have every group fully lay out the bits in the config{,1,2} fields so
> > > that you only need to specify one group per event, even if that leads to
> > > some redundancy (e.g. group1..n all have an eventcode field.)
> > 
> > ok, it'd be the 'cpu::group1/config=1,config1=2,config2=3/u' then..
> > 
> > but let's see what Peter thinks about this, since he first suggested
> > to 'fix' this by having separate pmu drivers.. not format groups :) 
> 
> I'm not convinced we need the whole grouping thing. Even x86 might have
> overlapping definitions, even for a single PMU (config1 contents will
> radically differ depending on the actual events used for instance).

well, I think let's go with what we have now, and see if need/want
to care about format groups later after we use it for a while..

since the "cpu/..../" syntax is new interface, there should be no
problem to change it

> 
> All we should do is warn the user when overlapping masks are used in a
> single event definition and other than that just do as they tell us.

that should be no problem..
do you want it in to take this.. ooor is later ok ;)

jirka

> 
> PMUs can always do an informal namespace thing if really needed, eg. by
> using a consistent prefix.
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-01 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-15 15:30 [RFC 0/3] perf tool: Add new event group management Jiri Olsa
2011-12-15 15:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] perf, tool: Add parser generator for events parsing Jiri Olsa
2011-12-16 14:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-16 14:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-20 10:31       ` Jiri Olsa
2011-12-20 10:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-20 11:30           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-20 11:39             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-21 16:16               ` new syntax for perf event Jiri Olsa
2012-01-05  9:17                 ` Jiri Olsa
2012-01-05 14:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-09 15:28                   ` Jiri Olsa
2012-01-09 15:43                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-16 12:31                     ` [RFCv3 0/9] perf tool: parser generator for events parsing Jiri Olsa
2012-01-16 12:31                       ` [PATCH 1/9] perf, tool: Make perf_evlist__splice_list_tail global Jiri Olsa
2012-01-16 12:31                       ` [PATCH 2/9] perf, tool: Remove unused functions from debugfs object Jiri Olsa
2012-01-16 12:31                       ` [PATCH 3/9] perf, tool: Add sysfs mountpoint interface Jiri Olsa
2012-01-16 12:31                       ` [PATCH 4/9] perf, tool: Add bitmap_or function into bitmap object Jiri Olsa
2012-01-16 12:31                       ` [PATCH 5/9] perf: Add sysfs format attribute for pmu device Jiri Olsa
2012-01-23 15:13                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-23 15:33                           ` Jiri Olsa
2012-01-24 15:22                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-24 19:40                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-25  8:54                                 ` Jiri Olsa
2012-01-26 16:26                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-27 12:32                           ` Jiri Olsa
2012-01-16 12:31                       ` [PATCH 6/9] perf, tool: Add parser generator for events parsing Jiri Olsa
2012-01-24 16:02                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-25  8:42                           ` Jiri Olsa
2012-01-16 12:31                       ` [PATCH 7/9] perf, tool: Add config options support for event parsing Jiri Olsa
2012-01-16 12:31                       ` [PATCH 8/9] perf, tool: Add perf pmu object to access pmu format definition Jiri Olsa
2012-01-16 12:31                       ` [PATCH 9/9] perf, tool: Add support to specify pmu style event Jiri Olsa
2012-01-24 15:22                       ` [RFCv3 0/9] perf tool: parser generator for events parsing Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-24 16:26                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-25  0:53                         ` Greg KH
2012-01-25 10:49                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-25 14:37                             ` Jiri Olsa
2012-01-26 16:23                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-26 16:27                                 ` Greg KH
2012-01-25 17:01                             ` Greg KH
2012-01-27 14:34                       ` [PATCHv4 " Jiri Olsa
2012-01-27 14:34                         ` [PATCH 1/9] perf, tool: Make perf_evlist__splice_list_tail global Jiri Olsa
2012-02-07 19:31                           ` [tip:perf/core] perf evlist: Make splice_list_tail method public tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2012-01-27 14:34                         ` [PATCH 2/9] perf, tool: Remove unused functions from debugfs object Jiri Olsa
2012-02-17  9:51                           ` [tip:perf/core] perf tools: " tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2012-01-27 14:34                         ` [PATCH 3/9] perf, tool: Add sysfs mountpoint interface Jiri Olsa
2012-02-17  9:52                           ` [tip:perf/core] perf tools: " tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2012-01-27 14:34                         ` [PATCH 4/9] perf, tool: Add bitmap_or function into bitmap object Jiri Olsa
2012-02-17  9:53                           ` [tip:perf/core] perf tools: " tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2012-01-27 14:34                         ` [PATCH 5/9] perf: Adding sysfs group format attribute for pmu device Jiri Olsa
2012-01-27 21:08                           ` Corey Ashford
2012-01-27 21:19                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-01  0:47                               ` Corey Ashford
2012-01-30  9:52                             ` Jiri Olsa
2012-02-01  1:25                               ` Corey Ashford
2012-02-01 13:13                                 ` Jiri Olsa
2012-02-01 14:18                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-01 14:31                                     ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2012-02-01 14:40                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-01 13:36                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-02  0:33                                   ` Corey Ashford
2012-01-27 14:34                         ` [PATCH 6/9] perf, tool: Add parser generator for events parsing Jiri Olsa
2012-01-27 14:34                         ` [PATCH 7/9] perf, tool: Add config options support for event parsing Jiri Olsa
2012-01-27 14:34                         ` [PATCH 8/9] perf, tool: Add perf pmu object to access pmu format definition Jiri Olsa
2012-01-27 14:34                         ` [PATCH 9/9] perf, tool: Add support to specify pmu style event Jiri Olsa
2012-02-13 13:13                         ` [PATCHv4 0/9] perf tool: parser generator for events parsing Jiri Olsa
2012-02-14 16:28                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-14 16:43                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-14 20:20                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-14 20:57                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-14 21:03                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-15  9:24                                   ` Jiri Olsa
2012-02-15 11:18                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-15 13:32                                       ` Jiri Olsa
2012-02-15 13:39                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-15  9:04                                 ` Jiri Olsa
2012-02-15 11:03                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-22 19:32             ` [PATCH 1/3] perf, tool: Add " Vince Weaver
2011-12-19 14:37     ` Jiri Olsa
2011-12-20 10:29     ` [PATCHv2 0/2] perf tool: " Jiri Olsa
2011-12-20 10:29       ` [PATCHv2 1/2] perf, tool: Add " Jiri Olsa
2011-12-20 10:29       ` [PATCHv2 2/2] perf, tool: Add more automated tests for event parsing Jiri Olsa
2011-12-20 17:37   ` [PATCH 1/3] perf, tool: Add parser generator for events parsing Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-12-21  9:55     ` Jiri Olsa
2011-12-15 15:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] perf, tool: Add new event group management Jiri Olsa
2011-12-20 17:47   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-12-20 21:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-21 11:54       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-12-15 15:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] perf, tool: Add more automated tests for event parsing Jiri Olsa
2011-12-20 17:38   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-12-21  8:47   ` [tip:perf/core] perf test: " tip-bot for Jiri Olsa

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