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From: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>
To: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Andrew Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ptrace: add ability to get clear_tid_address
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 16:42:54 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120208124254.GD7009@moon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F326AF7.3060203@redhat.com>

On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 12:30:47PM +0000, Pedro Alves wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, could be, but it means you have to install pthread debug libs, right?
> > (have no idea actually since I personally use debug printing instead of
> >  breakpoints).
> 
> Not really more than what we need today.  Just some exported function name
> in the elf symbol tables.  Assuming a the program is using clear_child_tid
> address for pthread_join as glibc is may not be a good idea.  It's doing
> things at the wrong layer.  Also, hardware watchpoints are a scarse
> resource.

It's pretty precious resource still incredibly useful. ok, i see
what you mean, thanks.

> 
> >> It's the kernel that writes to this address, so I've no
> >> idea if the watchpoint trap ends up visible on userspace. Which thread
> >> would it be reported to, given that this is cleared when the child
> >> is gone, I have no idea either.
> > 
> > Yeah, need some help from someone who wrote hw-breakpoints support in
> > kernel (i don't remember the details).
> 
> I just tried it.  This is &pthread->tid in glibc/libpthread, so with debug
> info it's easy to figure out where to set the watchpoint manually with gdb
> without asking the kernel.  Doesn't work.  ptrace doesn't show any trap
> for the kernel writes.
>

Thanks for info. 

	Cyrill

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-08 12:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-03 11:11 [PATCH] ptrace: add ability to get clear_tid_address Andrew Vagin
2012-02-03 16:25 ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-03 16:30   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-02-03 16:41     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-03 16:54       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-02-03 16:45   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-02-03 16:51     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-07 20:07       ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-07 20:56         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-02-07 21:15           ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-07 21:51             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-02-08 12:30               ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-08 12:42                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov [this message]
2012-02-08 17:31                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-08 18:04                   ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-08 19:02                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-08 19:20                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-02-08 19:21                       ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-02-08 19:42                       ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-08 13:41         ` Andrew Vagin
2012-02-08 18:12           ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-02-10  3:02             ` Jamie Lokier

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