From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
To: Mark Brown
<broonie-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
Thierry Reding
<thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>,
devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
Mitch Bradley <wmb-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>,
Mike Frysinger <vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Ryan Mallon <rmallon-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>,
Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
Colin Cross <ccross-z5hGa2qSFaRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
Rob Herring <rob.herring-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
Grant Likely
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Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
Lars-Peter Clausen <lars-Qo5EllUWu/uELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>,
Richard Purdie <rpurdie-Fm38FmjxZ/leoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
Matthias Kaehlcke
<matthias-RprLehDfhQ3k1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>,
linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Eric Miao <eric.y.miao-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Kurt Van Dijck <kurt.van.dijck-/BeEPy95v10@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 03/10] pwm: Add device tree support
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:44:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201203151244.37483.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120315102944.GB3138-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
On Thursday 15 March 2012, Mark Brown wrote:
> Similar code is going in for regulators in 3.4 along with the core
> -EPROBE_DEFER change (though not OF specific) and I sent a similar patch
> for GPIOs too, hopefully Grant will ack it in time for it to make it in.
>
> My theory is that since you need to explicitly know that the thing
> you're requesting is there in order to request it (eg, have a PWM number
> or DT link) the overwhemlingly common case for a failure to request will
> be that the provider didn't register yet which is exactly the case where
> deferral is desired. It therefore seems sensible to have the framework
> default the drivers to retrying rather than have almost every individual
> driver look at the failure, figure out if it was a missing provider, and
> then retry. Drivers that have a good reason to fail can always check
> for -EPROBE_DEFER and override it.
>
> The result should be that we can take advantage of probe deferral over
> large areas of the kernel without having to go and explicitly modify so
> many drivers - if the frameworks like GPIO, clk and regulator can do
> this that ought to cover 90% of the cases where probe deferral will be
> needed without having to do anything more than have good error handling
> paths on probe which is a good idea anyway.
Ok, makes sense.
Thanks,
Arnd
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v4 03/10] pwm: Add device tree support
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:44:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201203151244.37483.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120315102944.GB3138@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
On Thursday 15 March 2012, Mark Brown wrote:
> Similar code is going in for regulators in 3.4 along with the core
> -EPROBE_DEFER change (though not OF specific) and I sent a similar patch
> for GPIOs too, hopefully Grant will ack it in time for it to make it in.
>
> My theory is that since you need to explicitly know that the thing
> you're requesting is there in order to request it (eg, have a PWM number
> or DT link) the overwhemlingly common case for a failure to request will
> be that the provider didn't register yet which is exactly the case where
> deferral is desired. It therefore seems sensible to have the framework
> default the drivers to retrying rather than have almost every individual
> driver look at the failure, figure out if it was a missing provider, and
> then retry. Drivers that have a good reason to fail can always check
> for -EPROBE_DEFER and override it.
>
> The result should be that we can take advantage of probe deferral over
> large areas of the kernel without having to go and explicitly modify so
> many drivers - if the frameworks like GPIO, clk and regulator can do
> this that ought to cover 90% of the cases where probe deferral will be
> needed without having to do anything more than have good error handling
> paths on probe which is a good idea anyway.
Ok, makes sense.
Thanks,
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-15 12:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-14 15:56 [PATCH v4 00/10] Add PWM framework and device tree support Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 15:56 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 15:56 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] PWM: add pwm framework support Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 15:56 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <1331740593-10807-2-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-14 20:52 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2012-03-14 20:52 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
[not found] ` <4F610517.7090006-Qo5EllUWu/uELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-14 20:57 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 20:57 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-16 7:19 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-16 7:19 ` Shawn Guo
[not found] ` <20120316071951.GB7758-rvtDTF3kK1ictlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-16 7:28 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-16 7:28 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-20 1:55 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-20 1:55 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <4F67E38F.6080300-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 5:59 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-20 5:59 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <1331740593-10807-1-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-14 15:56 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] pwm: Allow chips to support multiple PWMs Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 15:56 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 20:42 ` H Hartley Sweeten
2012-03-14 20:42 ` H Hartley Sweeten
2012-03-14 20:49 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 20:49 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-15 0:42 ` H Hartley Sweeten
2012-03-15 0:42 ` H Hartley Sweeten
2012-03-14 15:56 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] pwm: Add device tree support Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 15:56 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <1331740593-10807-4-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-14 20:11 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-14 20:11 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20120314201138.GU3852-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-14 20:46 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 20:46 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-15 8:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-15 8:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201203150840.42659.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-15 10:29 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-15 10:29 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20120315102944.GB3138-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-15 12:44 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2012-03-15 12:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-20 2:12 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-20 2:12 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <4F67E7A3.3090603-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 5:51 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-20 5:51 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 15:56 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] ARM: tegra: Fix PWM clock programming Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 15:56 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <1331740593-10807-5-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 2:15 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-20 2:15 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-14 15:56 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] ARM: tegra: Provide clock for only one PWM controller Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 15:56 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <1331740593-10807-6-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 2:18 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-20 2:18 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <4F67E8E4.7000604-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 8:44 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-20 8:44 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20120320084403.GB20249-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 15:27 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-20 15:27 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-14 15:56 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] pwm: Add NVIDIA Tegra SoC support Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 15:56 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <1331740593-10807-7-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-16 8:00 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-16 8:00 ` Shawn Guo
[not found] ` <20120316080025.GD7758-rvtDTF3kK1ictlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-16 8:21 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-16 8:21 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-20 2:35 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-20 2:35 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-14 15:56 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] pwm: tegra: Add device tree support Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 15:56 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <1331740593-10807-8-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 2:42 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-20 2:42 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <4F67EE9A.6080101-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 8:48 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-20 8:48 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20120320084807.GC20249-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 15:33 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-20 15:33 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <4F68A32D.1000402-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 15:44 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-20 15:44 ` Thierry Reding
2012-04-04 7:04 ` Shawn Guo
2012-04-04 7:04 ` Shawn Guo
[not found] ` <20120404070432.GF7264-rvtDTF3kK1ictlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 18:33 ` Stephen Warren
2012-04-04 18:33 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-14 15:56 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] pwm: Add Blackfin support Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 15:56 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 15:56 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] pwm: Add PXA support Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 15:56 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <1331740593-10807-10-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-15 0:13 ` Ryan Mallon
2012-03-15 0:13 ` Ryan Mallon
[not found] ` <4F61343A.80103-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-15 6:56 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-15 6:56 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20120315065631.GB20502-RM9K5IK7kjIQXX3q8xo1gnVAuStQJXxyR5q1nwbD4aMs9pC9oP6+/A@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-15 9:05 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-15 9:05 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20120315090540.GW3852-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-15 9:21 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-15 9:21 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20120315092134.GA29841-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-15 9:45 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-15 9:45 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-16 8:12 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-16 8:12 ` Shawn Guo
[not found] ` <20120316081222.GE7758-rvtDTF3kK1ictlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-16 8:29 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-16 8:29 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 15:56 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] pwm-backlight: Add rudimentary device tree support Thierry Reding
2012-03-14 15:56 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <1331740593-10807-11-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-15 8:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-15 8:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-20 2:59 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-20 2:59 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <4F67F2AF.3020404-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 8:39 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-20 8:39 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20120320083943.GA20249-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 15:27 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-20 15:27 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <4F68A1C8.5080608-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 15:43 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-20 15:43 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20120320154330.GA8651-RM9K5IK7kjIQXX3q8xo1gnVAuStQJXxyR5q1nwbD4aMs9pC9oP6+/A@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 15:56 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-20 15:56 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <4F68A899.3030009-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 16:08 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-20 16:08 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-14 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] Add PWM framework and " H Hartley Sweeten
2012-03-14 23:19 ` H Hartley Sweeten
2012-03-15 6:41 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-15 6:41 ` Thierry Reding
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