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From: Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	anca.emanuel@gmail.com, adilger.kernel@dilger.ca,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] ext4: Use pr_fmt and pr_<level>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:04:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120320010401.GA14363@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1332182773.3908.11.camel@joe2Laptop>

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:46:13AM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 14:31 -0400, Ted Ts'o wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 02:14:02PM -0400, David Miller wrote:
> > I've *already* gone far beyond the pr_fmt standardization, with the
> > ext4_msg() and ext4_error() system
> 
> Please note the defects that were recently corrected there
> which occurred because of a lack of standardization both
> in prefix and termination style.

For debugging printk's that are #ifdef'ed for anyone other than ext4
developers and can't be enabled via CONFIG_*.  Yawn.

> Any logging system, with or without an external notification
> mechanism, will be painful.  pr_<foo> is at least a small
> start.  I'd like to see a notification mechanism, perhaps ala
> netlink/ethtool to extend pr_<foo> or another call.  A lot of
> these printk/pr_<level> uses really could generate notifications.

Yes, but we can't do structured notifications with the current
pr_<foo>.  So why change literally tens of thousands of callsites when
in order to really realize the full promise of structured
notifications, we'll have to change them *again*?

	       	     	     	    	 - Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-20  1:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-16  0:07 [PATCH 0/9] ext4: Message logging corrections and neatening Joe Perches
2012-03-16  0:07 ` [PATCH 1/9] ext4: Add -DDEBUG to Makefile Joe Perches
2012-03-16 16:03   ` David Daney
2012-03-16 16:29     ` Joe Perches
2012-03-19  4:39     ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-19 16:26       ` Joe Perches
2012-03-19 18:48       ` David Daney
2012-03-20  1:05         ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-16  0:07 ` [PATCH 2/9] ext4: Use pr_fmt and pr_<level> Joe Perches
2012-03-19  4:09   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-19  4:14     ` David Miller
2012-03-19  4:34       ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-19  5:12         ` David Miller
2012-03-19 15:31           ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-19 15:51             ` Anca Emanuel
2012-03-19 16:14               ` Joe Perches
2012-03-19 16:14               ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-19 18:14                 ` David Miller
2012-03-19 18:31                   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-19 18:46                     ` Joe Perches
2012-03-20  1:04                       ` Ted Ts'o [this message]
2012-03-20  1:33                         ` Joe Perches
2012-03-20  1:47                           ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-20  1:59                             ` Joe Perches
2012-03-20  2:58                               ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-20  3:02                                 ` Joe Perches
2012-03-20  5:46                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2012-03-20  7:10                                     ` David Miller
2012-03-20  8:47                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2012-03-20  9:44                                         ` Joe Perches
2012-03-20  9:27                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-03-20  9:27                                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-03-20 13:03                                       ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-20 18:47                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2012-03-20  1:46                         ` Al Viro
2012-03-19 17:53             ` David Miller
2012-03-19  4:25     ` Joe Perches
2012-03-19  4:36       ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-19 16:46       ` Jiri Slaby
2012-03-19 17:09         ` Joe Perches
2012-03-19 17:36           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2012-03-19 17:44             ` Joe Perches
2012-03-20  1:06               ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-20  1:28                 ` david
2012-03-20  1:51                   ` Joe Perches
2012-03-20  1:33                 ` Joe Perches
2012-03-20  8:57           ` Jiri Slaby
2012-03-20  9:21             ` Joe Perches
2012-03-20  9:25               ` Jiri Slaby
2012-03-20  9:46                 ` Joe Perches
2012-03-22 17:02                   ` Jiri Slaby
2012-03-22 17:42                     ` Joe Perches
2012-03-19  4:55   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-19  5:13     ` David Miller
2012-03-19  5:39     ` Joe Perches
2012-03-16  0:07 ` [PATCH 3/9] ext4: Fix indentation Joe Perches
2012-03-19  4:10   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-19  4:30     ` Joe Perches
2012-03-16  0:07 ` [PATCH 4/9] ext4: Add no_printk argument validation, fix fallout Joe Perches
2012-03-19  4:16   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-16  0:07 ` [PATCH 5/9] ext4: Avoid output message interleaving in ext4_error_<foo> Joe Perches
2012-03-19  4:51   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-16  0:07 ` [PATCH 6/9] ext4: Remove redundant "EXT4-fs: " from uses of ext4_msg Joe Perches
2012-03-19  4:13   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-16  0:07 ` [PATCH 7/9] ext4: Format neatening for easier grep Joe Perches
2012-03-19  4:26   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-19  4:30     ` Joe Perches
2012-03-16  0:07 ` [PATCH 8/9] ext4: Neaten ext4_error uses Joe Perches
2012-03-16  0:07 ` [PATCH 9/9] ext4: Rename ext4_warning to ext4_warn and ext4_error to ext4_err Joe Perches
2012-03-19  4:51   ` Ted Ts'o

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