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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	greg@kroah.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
Subject: Re: [take 3] pohmelfs: call for inclusion
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 21:54:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120321215432.GR6589@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120321213704.GB16713@ioremap.net>

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 01:37:04AM +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 09:18:35PM +0000, Al Viro (viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk) wrote:
> > I think I've asked that question at least 3 times.  Never got anything
> > resembling an answer...  Is that misspelled dentry_path()?  Or is something
> > subtle going on and we really want different strings generated for
> > chrooted processes here?
> 
> This is a special case which does bad things intentionally.
> http-compatibility was added in _this_ POHMELFS on demand from people
> who do want to access files by handle created from whole path. Not name
> or inode number, but whole path, since that's only what is available in
> http (or more generally via rest api)
> 
> It is limited, wrong and error-prone. It does not even support rename
> and hardlinks. But that's what people want.
> When I bind-remount part of the tree, things 'dissapear' from the tree.
> Yes, this is really an uglymoron, but it was created for _some_ limited
> case which rougly work in sandboxed environment only.

IDGI.  Again, you are getting different strings for different processes,
so that one inside a chroot generates shorter pathnames.  I'm not asking
about races with rename() et.al. - it's obviously racy, but that's a
separate problem.  Details, please - as far as I can tell, that code
looks like a reimplementation of dentry_path() in a curiously broken
way; what demands that particular breakage?  Again, the question of
pathname stability, uniqueness, etc. is a separate story; why this specific
weirdness?  Note that you are passing a to d_path() a vfsmount/dentry
pair that violates all kinds of assertions - dentry->d_sb != mnt->mnt_sb
more often than not, to start with.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-21 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-16 12:18 [take 3] pohmelfs: call for inclusion Evgeniy Polyakov
2012-03-16 13:29 ` Joe Perches
2012-03-16 13:39   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2012-03-16 13:43   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2012-03-16 14:12     ` Joe Perches
2012-03-21 20:27       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2012-03-21 21:02         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-21 21:18           ` Al Viro
2012-03-21 21:37             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2012-03-21 21:54               ` Al Viro [this message]
2012-03-21 22:04                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2012-03-21 22:28                   ` Al Viro
2012-03-21 22:40                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov

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